"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote in message 
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> Original interpretation!!

     Thanks!

> I would put a little puddle of water at the base too......

   Ha! I beat you to it! Rendering now... Should be about 2 hours.


> I am not too fond of the background texture, though... Why green?

   Heh... :) It was just the first image I picked as an image map - it's an 
actual photo of... green leather! No, I didn't like it either, so I've gone 
for a plainer look.

     ~Steve~


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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message 
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> St. wrote:
>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>>
>>   ~Steve~
>>
>>
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>>
> I think it is technically very challenging and well realized.  By that I 
> mean how you accomplished the cut interior look and combined it with 
> excellent texturing and photons(?) and achieve a remarkable level of 
> realism.

   Blimey Jim, thanks!

 It is also a great interpretation of the topic, but with
> regards to that, the color scheme doesn't make much sense to me.  I would 
> think that some play of reds and cyans might push the irony a little more, 
> but perhaps you are trying to be less obvious.  I do wonder if you might 
> experiment more with the lighting to make the image a little more 
> evocative and perhaps gain further allusion to the topic.

    Check the next one out soon.

    ~Steve~

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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:43f8cf69@news.povray.org...
> Any suggestions appreciated.

Mmm, there's something about the combination of photons and the refraction that
makes it look really pretty.  I'll look forward to the next version you
mentioned :)

I notice there are some black areas (on the left, and at the bottom on each
corner) - is this a max_trace_level hit or is it reflecting or refracting
something out to the sides that's black?  If the latter, you could use this to
your advantage - put something coloured out there with a high ambient (maybe a
burnt orange/yellow?) and use it to accentuate the edges.

As others have mentioned the background might need changing - how about a deep
rich blue?

Nice work :)

Lance.

thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au

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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:43f8cf69@news.povray.org...

> Any suggestions appreciated.

Nice, but like others, I think the background texture is, well, not the
greatest. Also, I'm not crazy about the marble texture either (POV materials
are so overused and also are not the best). The slant is also distracting
for me, it would not be so bad if at least one edge of the shelf/mantle were
visible. Finally, the transition from wall to mantle needs work. The piece
is pretty good, but I don't like the setting too much overall. Now, if you
placed it on a coffee table in front of the mantle and have the fire
reflecting faintly off of it, and make it glossier and melting...

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Phew! That was a long 2 hours!  ;)

Ok, I've implemented Lance' deep rich blue as the background - not too sure 
about it, but would appreciate other's thoughts.

 Thomas' suggestion of having the 'ice' block melting is there now too, and 
I've added a couple of brass beasties with fiery flames, as a kind of 
surreal effect to go with the melting ice...

  Oh, and I've moved the camera back a little as per nobody's suggestion, 
but if this image isn't going to work out, I'll probably follow his other 
advise and do the whole fireplace thing instead... Or both. Hmm...

  Oh again, and what do you think of the red flames this time?

   ~Steve~

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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:43f9f513@news.povray.org...
> Phew! That was a long 2 hours!  ;)
>
> Ok, I've implemented Lance' deep rich blue as the background - not too sure
> about it <snip>

Now that I see it, neither am I... heh :S

I actually quite like the neutral colours of the surface material from the last
one, and the neutral colours of the flames - maybe the red is a little
overpowering?

Hmm... *ponders*

Lance.

thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au

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"Orchid XP v2" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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>I like it.

  Thanks. And yours is coming along nicely too.

   ~Steve~

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"Stefan Viljoen polard.com>" <spamnot@<removethis> wrote in message 
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> St. spake:
>
>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>>
>>    ~Steve~
>
> Nice, a unique variation. Love the textures, especially the lower part 
> near
> the table.

   Thanks Stefan! Not sure what you mean by 'table' though, as it's really a 
mantle over a fireplace.

    ~Steve~


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> Stefan Viljoen
> Software Support Technician / Programmer
> Polar Design Solutions
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"somebody" <x### [at] ycom> wrote in message news:43f9a6a1$1@news.povray.org...
> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:43f8cf69@news.povray.org...
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>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>
> Nice, but like others, I think the background texture is, well, not the
> greatest.

   :op   ;)  Thanks for the 'nice'.

Also, I'm not crazy about the marble texture either (POV materials
> are so overused and also are not the best).

  Yes, I picked the one closest to our actual fireplace tiles here. I've 
kept them as the fireplace surround, but as you'll see I've changed the 
mantle to wood. I think it gives a nice contrast.


The slant is also distracting
> for me,

  Sorted. I didn't like it too.

it would not be so bad if at least one edge of the shelf/mantle were
> visible. Finally, the transition from wall to mantle needs work. The piece
> is pretty good, but I don't like the setting too much overall. Now, if you
> placed it on a coffee table in front of the mantle and have the fire
> reflecting faintly off of it, and make it glossier and melting...

  It's funny that you said that. This image started off with a vision of an 
old guy sat in an armchair in front of his open coal fire with his feet up 
on a cracket and one arm and hand showing holding a freezing cold glass of 
water, (so in effect, all you would see is his legs and slippers, and to the 
right, his arm and hand holding the glass - kind of like this  \ //  ). 
Well, I started with the mantle-piece, and then I was wondering what to put 
on the mantle, so I hit the 'net and stumbled on those glass frosted 
ornaments - and that was it for now, I haven't bothered with the other idea, 
but may well do if time permits.

   Thanks for the suggestions.

     ~Steve~


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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:43f9f513@news.povray.org...

 > as per nobody's suggestion, 

  OOPS!! Not 'nobody's' suggestion!! *SOMEBODY*  :)

   Sorry somebody.

    ~Steve~

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