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From: Steven Pigeon
Subject: Re: The Tyrany of Plato
Date: 20 Aug 2005 11:16:25
Message: <43074949$1@news.povray.org>
AMD Athlon x64 4000+, nvidia 4 chipset, 2GB of 400MHz DDR
ram. It's my new toy. I've toyed with the setting until I
filled RAM without going too much over.

I think it might be nice if one could parameterize the
number of photons using a target memory capacity instead
of counts or density. Some kind of "shoot me for 1.5GB"
setting.


Sebastian H. wrote:
> Steven Pigeon wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> A render experiment with pov 64 for windows. A few
>> days of render, 2GB of photons. I also have a desktop
>> size version (1600x1200) just ask if you want it.
>>
> 
> Nice.
> On what machine did you render this?
> 
> Sebastian


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From: Orchid XP v2
Subject: Re: The Tyrany of Plato
Date: 20 Aug 2005 16:49:17
Message: <4307974d$1@news.povray.org>
> AMD Athlon x64 4000+, nvidia 4 chipset, 2GB of 400MHz DDR
> ram. It's my new toy. I've toyed with the setting until I
> filled RAM without going too much over.

That's a damn fine machine. I was going to get a 4000+ my self - but it 
was, like, 3x the price of most of the rest. :-S

OOC, which OS?

> I think it might be nice if one could parameterize the
> number of photons using a target memory capacity instead
> of counts or density. Some kind of "shoot me for 1.5GB"
> setting.

Well, I suppose if you rigure out how much memory 1 photon uses, that 
would tell you what "count" setting to use... (You wanna check how much 
RAM is *free* when you do this.)


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From: Orchid XP v2
Subject: Re: The Tyrany of Plato
Date: 20 Aug 2005 16:50:13
Message: <43079785$1@news.povray.org>
dispersion_samples = *runs away screaming*


No wonder it took a few days...

Looks pretty cool though.


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From: Steven Pigeon
Subject: Re: The Tyrany of Plato
Date: 20 Aug 2005 17:20:51
Message: <43079eb3$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v2 wrote:
>> AMD Athlon x64 4000+, nvidia 4 chipset, 2GB of 400MHz DDR
>> ram. It's my new toy. I've toyed with the setting until I
>> filled RAM without going too much over.
> 
> 
> That's a damn fine machine. I was going to get a 4000+ my self - but it 
> was, like, 3x the price of most of the rest. :-S
> 
> OOC, which OS?

For now, xp x64 pro. Probably won't last. Probably will install
some x64 linux distribution, still haven't decided which. Installing
XP on this box was a quick fix to get it up and working.

> Well, I suppose if you rigure out how much memory 1 photon uses, that 
> would tell you what "count" setting to use... (You wanna check how much 
> RAM is *free* when you do this.)

No, no, I meant that povray should distribute photons adaptatively on
its own, until it reaches the target memory capacity. As of now, 
specifying density is much of guesswork; and count is hard to relate to 
density.


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From: Steven Pigeon
Subject: Re: The Tyrany of Plato
Date: 20 Aug 2005 17:21:16
Message: <43079ecc$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v2 wrote:
> dispersion_samples = *runs away screaming*
> 
> 
> No wonder it took a few days...
> 
> Looks pretty cool though.

dispersion_samples = 75


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From: K
Subject: Re: The Tyrany of Plato
Date: 21 Aug 2005 23:20:04
Message: <43094464$1@news.povray.org>
very nice.
I am interested in your high res version.

K

"Steven Pigeon" <ste### [at] videotronca> wrote in message 
news:4306471e@news.povray.org...
>
>
> A render experiment with pov 64 for windows. A few
> days of render, 2GB of photons. I also have a desktop
> size version (1600x1200) just ask if you want it.
>
> Best,
>
> S.
>
>
> Steven Pigeon, Ph.D.
> ste### [at] videotronca
>
>


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From: povray
Subject: Re: The Tyrany of Plato
Date: 22 Aug 2005 17:17:54
Message: <53aa.4309130d.1d17f@localhost>
Steven Pigeon wrote:
> 
> 
> A render experiment with pov 64 for windows. A few
> days of render, 2GB of photons. I also have a desktop
> size version (1600x1200) just ask if you want it.
> 
> Best,
> 
>     S.
> 
> 
> Steven Pigeon, Ph.D.
> ste### [at] videotronca
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 

Wicked picture but the title make me curious.  I understand that plato
refers to the platonic solids ... but why "tyranny"?


-- 
to all the companies who wait until a large user base becomes
dependant on their freeware, then shafting said happy campers with
mandatory payment for continued usage. I spit on your grave.


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From: Steven Pigeon
Subject: Re: The Tyrany of Plato
Date: 22 Aug 2005 18:03:53
Message: <430a4bc9$1@news.povray.org>
povray wrote:
 > Wicked picture but the title make me curious.  I understand that plato
 > refers to the platonic solids ... but why "tyranny"?


The platonic solid imposed a notion of beauty that wasn't realistic for
our universe. They led, for example, Kepler, as late as 1619, to devise
an absurdly complicated model for the solar system composed of embedded
platonic solids (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler )

Because the then-measured orbit gaps corresponded vaguely to the ratios
of said solids in that particular arrangement,then, of course, that must
be it! The Ancient knew so much more than the europeans of that era
(at least that the way they perceived it then; the Renaissance took its
root in the Classics and the Ancients.) I'm sure Kepler felt like he
unraveled some knowledge of the Ancient instead of being mislead by some


Fortunately, it didn't keep it from getting his famous three laws right.


All those reasons and that the title sounded way cooler than "platonics"



Best,

	S.

Steven Pigeon, Ph. D.
ste### [at] videotronca


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From: bob
Subject: Re: The Tyrany of Plato
Date: 25 Aug 2005 11:35:24
Message: <430de53c@news.povray.org>
Steven Pigeon wrote:
> days of render, 2GB of photons. I also have a desktop
> size version (1600x1200) just ask if you want it.

i'd love the 1600x1200 version thanks!

bob


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From: Steven Pigeon
Subject: Re: The Tyrany of Plato
Date: 25 Aug 2005 19:19:09
Message: <430e51ed$1@news.povray.org>
bob wrote:
> Steven Pigeon wrote:
> 
>> days of render, 2GB of photons. I also have a desktop
>> size version (1600x1200) just ask if you want it.
> 
> 
> i'd love the 1600x1200 version thanks!
> 
> bob

Sure, provide me with a valid e-mail


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