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From: Orchid XP v2
Subject: The answer
Date: 10 Aug 2005 14:41:34
Message: <42fa4a5e$1@news.povray.org>
Since everybody is so captivated by this [not!], I'm going to just come 
out with it now.

You remember the chaos pendulum? A metal weight suspended over three 
magnets. A while back I make a simulation of its path.

Well, this is 102,400 chaos pendulums, all running in parallel, but each 
one started from a different initial pixel location. And each pixel is 
coloured according to how close its pendulum currently is to each of the 
three magnets. (The magnets are red, green and blue.) If you watch the 
animation, it appears to "pulsate" due to the typical swing period of 
the pendulum.

In this simulation, there is no gravity, no dissapation, and the magnets 
produce linear forces. I plan to try quadratic forces next, and maybe 
add some gravity. I'm expecting to find quadratic force makes the 
patterns a lot more complex...

BTW, I have done animations with other colourings. Best of all was a 
sky-like agate pattern that morphs to the swing. But it keeps crashing 
POV-Ray. :'{


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From: EagleSun
Subject: Re: The answer
Date: 10 Aug 2005 16:50:00
Message: <web.42fa678d176d3743841337530@news.povray.org>
Very interesting that you use POV-Ray for research, so it looks really
useful.  Very nice graphics to represent your data.

Orchid XP v2 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

> Well, this is 102,400 chaos pendulums, all running in parallel, but each
> one started from a different initial pixel location. And each pixel is
> coloured according to how close its pendulum currently is to each of the
> three magnets. (The magnets are red, green and blue.) If you watch the
> animation, it appears to "pulsate" due to the typical swing period of
> the pendulum.
>
> In this simulation, there is no gravity, no dissapation, and the magnets
> produce linear forces. I plan to try quadratic forces next, and maybe
> add some gravity. I'm expecting to find quadratic force makes the
> patterns a lot more complex...


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From: Stefan Viljoen
Subject: Re: The answer
Date: 10 Aug 2005 18:42:22
Message: <42fa82cd@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v2 spake:

> Since everybody is so captivated by this [not!], I'm going to just come
> out with it now.
> 
> You remember the chaos pendulum? A metal weight suspended over three
> magnets. A while back I make a simulation of its path.
> 
> Well, this is 102,400 chaos pendulums, all running in parallel, but each
> one started from a different initial pixel location. And each pixel is
> coloured according to how close its pendulum currently is to each of the
> three magnets. (The magnets are red, green and blue.) If you watch the
> animation, it appears to "pulsate" due to the typical swing period of
> the pendulum.
> 
> In this simulation, there is no gravity, no dissapation, and the magnets
> produce linear forces. I plan to try quadratic forces next, and maybe
> add some gravity. I'm expecting to find quadratic force makes the
> patterns a lot more complex...
> 
> BTW, I have done animations with other colourings. Best of all was a
> sky-like agate pattern that morphs to the swing. But it keeps crashing
> POV-Ray. :'{

Ouch - no wonder I was totally wrong. Never heard of a chaos pendulum - some
kind of classical experiment or device in physics?

-- 
Stefan Viljoen
Software Support Technician / Programmer
Polar Design Solutions


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From: Orchid XP v2
Subject: Re: The answer
Date: 11 Aug 2005 16:27:24
Message: <42fbb4ac$1@news.povray.org>
> Ouch - no wonder I was totally wrong. Never heard of a chaos pendulum - some
> kind of classical experiment or device in physics?

Like I said, a pendulum with a magnetic weight, with three magnets 
placed near to the swing path. You can find them in places like the 
Discovery story and the Gadget shop - along with Netwon's Cradle and 
other such amusements...


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From: Stefan Viljoen
Subject: Re: The answer
Date: 12 Aug 2005 01:43:57
Message: <42fc371c@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v2 spake:

>> Ouch - no wonder I was totally wrong. Never heard of a chaos pendulum -
>> some kind of classical experiment or device in physics?
> 
> Like I said, a pendulum with a magnetic weight, with three magnets
> placed near to the swing path. You can find them in places like the
> Discovery story and the Gadget shop - along with Netwon's Cradle and
> other such amusements...

Hmm... what's that "plasma ball" thing called? You know, the one with the
glass sphere, filled with some gas (no idea what) and when you place your
hands on it it seems to "flow" in your direction, looking like lightning is
going on inside it? Some kinda flourescent gas.

-- 
Stefan Viljoen
Software Support Technician / Programmer
Polar Design Solutions


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From: Daniel Hulme
Subject: Re: The answer
Date: 12 Aug 2005 03:04:13
Message: <20050812080413.22fc5f7c@dh286.pem.cam.ac.uk>
> Hmm... what's that "plasma ball" thing called?
That would be: a plasma ball.

-- 
Now  as he walked by the sea  of Galilee,  he saw  Simon and Andrew  his
brother casting a spam into the net:  for they were phishers.  And Jesus
said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become phishers
of men.  And  straightway  they forsook  their  nets,  and followed him.


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From: Stefan Viljoen
Subject: Re: The answer
Date: 12 Aug 2005 11:36:19
Message: <42fcc1f3@news.povray.org>
Daniel Hulme spake:

>> Hmm... what's that "plasma ball" thing called?
> That would be: a plasma ball.
> 

Har har har...

Yeah, "plasma ball" seems descriptive, but I was thinking it had some
cool-sounding scientific name...

-- 
Stefan Viljoen
Software Support Technician / Programmer
Polar Design Solutions


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From: Daniel Hulme
Subject: Re: The answer
Date: 12 Aug 2005 11:53:00
Message: <20050812165300.7a24da69@dh286.pem.cam.ac.uk>
> >> Hmm... what's that "plasma ball" thing called?
> > That would be: a plasma ball.

> Yeah, "plasma ball" seems descriptive, but I was thinking it had some
> cool-sounding scientific name...
What, like "plasma ball"? I don't know about you, but to me "plasma"
sounds both cool and scientific. IIRC, the ball is filled with very
rarefied gas -- somewhat like a plasma. :->

-- 
"The  rules  of  programming  are  transitory;  only  Tao  is  eternal. 
 Therefore you  must contemplate Tao before you receive  enlightenment."
"How will I know when I have received enlightenment?"  asked the novice.
"Your program will then run correctly," replied the master.


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: The answer
Date: 12 Aug 2005 13:05:20
Message: <42fcd6d0$1@news.povray.org>
Stefan Viljoen <spamnot@ wrote:
> Orchid XP v2 spake:
> 
> 
>>>Ouch - no wonder I was totally wrong. Never heard of a chaos pendulum -
>>>some kind of classical experiment or device in physics?
>>
>>Like I said, a pendulum with a magnetic weight, with three magnets
>>placed near to the swing path. You can find them in places like the
>>Discovery story and the Gadget shop - along with Netwon's Cradle and
>>other such amusements...
> 
> 
> Hmm... what's that "plasma ball" thing called? You know, the one with the
> glass sphere, filled with some gas (no idea what) and when you place your
> hands on it it seems to "flow" in your direction, looking like lightning is
> going on inside it? Some kinda flourescent gas.
> 

Plasma globe. Usually (the typical blue tendrils, orange footprints 
variety) filled with Ne and He in a vacuum (mostly He. The bit of Ne. 
gives the footprint the orange glow)

I actually own one of these. 8-)

-- 
~Mike

Things! Billions of them!


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From: Orchid XP v2
Subject: Re: The answer
Date: 13 Aug 2005 06:08:49
Message: <42fdc6b1$1@news.povray.org>
> Plasma globe. Usually (the typical blue tendrils, orange footprints 
> variety) filled with Ne and He in a vacuum (mostly He. The bit of Ne. 
> gives the footprint the orange glow)
> 
> I actually own one of these. 8-)

Me also. (The footprints are pink.)

I also own a second one - it's really weird. The surface is the glass is 
opaque, but when it's on you see randow colours glowing through it. (I 
imagine the glass itself is coated with some kind of phosphore - the 
colour seem to stay on one side of the globe...)

I think the contents of the globe might actually count as "plasma" too...


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