Bill Hails wrote:
> I'm going cross-eyed staring at this thing, any helpful
> criticisms welcome.
> 
> Notes.
> 1. megapov for the campus_probe.hdr from Paul Debovec.
> 2. Far distant trees reflected in lake courtesy of Arbaro.
> 3. Radiosity_Normal from rad_def.inc but whith count upped to 500.
> 4. No AA yet.
> 5. Nearby overhanging leaves are image maps on meshes.

Beautiful picture.

If I could change one thing, it would be the bark on the tree.. IMO it 
looks too gray, probably needs to be lightened a bit.

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The background looks a bit flat, try adding an object in the water to give
it a sense of depth. Since it is a very peacefull picture at the moment, a
swan ( unsure about the spelling, i mean the large, white, swimming bird)
would be great.

The rest looks great!

Greetings,

JWV

"Bill Hails" <bil### [at] europeyahoo-inccom> wrote in message
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> I'm going cross-eyed staring at this thing, any helpful
> criticisms welcome.
>
> Notes.
> 1. megapov for the campus_probe.hdr from Paul Debovec.
> 2. Far distant trees reflected in lake courtesy of Arbaro.
> 3. Radiosity_Normal from rad_def.inc but whith count upped to 500.
> 4. No AA yet.
> 5. Nearby overhanging leaves are image maps on meshes.
>
> Smallest Alloc:                   9 bytes
> Largest  Alloc:            48329648 bytes
> Peak memory used:         613905744 bytes
> Total Scene Processing Times
>   Parse Time:    0 hours 24 minutes 17 seconds (1457 seconds)
>   Photon Time:   0 hours  0 minutes  0 seconds (0 seconds)
>   Cloth Time:    0 hours  0 minutes  0 seconds (0 seconds)
>   Mechsim Time:  0 hours  0 minutes  0 seconds (0 seconds)
>   Render Time:  42 hours 41 minutes 47 seconds (153707 seconds)
>   Postpr. Time:  0 hours  0 minutes  0 seconds (0 seconds)
>   Total Time:   43 hours  6 minutes  4 seconds (155164 seconds)
>
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> Bill Hails wrote:
> 
>> I'm going cross-eyed staring at this thing, any helpful
>> criticisms welcome.
>>
>> Notes.
>> 1. megapov for the campus_probe.hdr from Paul Debovec.
>> 2. Far distant trees reflected in lake courtesy of Arbaro.
>> 3. Radiosity_Normal from rad_def.inc but whith count upped to 500.
>> 4. No AA yet.
>> 5. Nearby overhanging leaves are image maps on meshes.
> 
> 
> Beautiful picture.
> 
> If I could change one thing, it would be the bark on the tree.. IMO it 
> looks too gray, probably needs to be lightened a bit.
> 
Just re-read my post ... Lightened = Darkend. Bah

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Mike Raiford wrote:

> Mike Raiford wrote:
>> Bill Hails wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm going cross-eyed staring at this thing, any helpful
>>> criticisms welcome.
>>>
>>> Notes.
>>> 1. megapov for the campus_probe.hdr from Paul Debovec.
>>> 2. Far distant trees reflected in lake courtesy of Arbaro.
>>> 3. Radiosity_Normal from rad_def.inc but whith count upped to 500.
>>> 4. No AA yet.
>>> 5. Nearby overhanging leaves are image maps on meshes.
>> 
>> 
>> Beautiful picture.
>> 
>> If I could change one thing, it would be the bark on the tree.. IMO it
>> looks too gray, probably needs to be lightened a bit.
>> 
> Just re-read my post ... Lightened = Darkend. Bah
> 

I was thinking darkened :-)
Thanks for your comments.

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"JWV" <jwv|at|planet.nl> wrote:

> The background looks a bit flat, try adding an object in the water to give
> it a sense of depth. Since it is a very peacefull picture at the moment, a
> swan ( unsure about the spelling, i mean the large, white, swimming bird)
> would be great.
> 
> The rest looks great!
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> JWV
> 

Hmm, yes, maybe, or a rotting tree stump, something like that, I
feel a swan might detract too much from the main subject.

There is a slight fog that's supposed to impart distance, it may
be a little too under played, and there are little flecks (discs)
on the water foreground but they're not obvious without AA.

Thanks for your encouragement.

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Bill Hails <bil### [at] europeyahoo-inccom> wrote:
> I'm going cross-eyed staring at this thing, any helpful
> criticisms welcome.

Wow! Major improvement over your last WIP!

As someone already mentioned, the tree bark is too light, as are the shadows
in general IMO, and where the leg meets the rock doesn't look right, I
would expect some marking of the rock surface, or bondo or something...

RG

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gonzo wrote:

> Wow! Major improvement over your last WIP!

You mean that RSOCP?  Yeah, I'm quite embarassed that I posted
that now, it was just something to get my fingers working again :-)

> As someone already mentioned, the tree bark is too light, as are the
> shadows in general IMO, and where the leg meets the rock doesn't look
> right, I would expect some marking of the rock surface, or bondo or
> something...
> 
> RG

Tree bark dutifully darkened by a factor of 2.

I agree about the contact between rock and leg, I'm just not sure
what to do about it. I can always model a shape I guess.

Not sure about the shadows, I'm not doing anything special, just
letting the hdr probe do its thing.  I may adjust the brightness
later.

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Bill Hails nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2005-02-21 12:01:
> "JWV" <jwv|at|planet.nl> wrote:
> 
> 
>>The background looks a bit flat, try adding an object in the water to give
>>it a sense of depth. Since it is a very peacefull picture at the moment, a
>>swan ( unsure about the spelling, i mean the large, white, swimming bird)
>>would be great.
>>
>>The rest looks great!
>>
>>Greetings,
>>
>>JWV
>>
> 
> 
> Hmm, yes, maybe, or a rotting tree stump, something like that, I
> feel a swan might detract too much from the main subject.
> 
> There is a slight fog that's supposed to impart distance, it may
> be a little too under played, and there are little flecks (discs)
> on the water foreground but they're not obvious without AA.
> 
> Thanks for your encouragement.
> 
I'd go for some lotus flowers or water lilys. A drifting tree branch, maybe with a few
leaves, could 
also be nice.
Great image, much improved.

Alain

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The right honourable Bill Hails spake:

> I'm going cross-eyed staring at this thing, any helpful
> criticisms welcome.

Nice, very realistic. Has a great calming look / effect.

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I've had a bit of inspiration since posting, what is
generally wrong is that the textures suck, at least the
whole scene looks like it is baked in an oven when it
should be dripping water, so I've gone back to the textures.

What do you think of this as an alternative for the lantern
texture?
(ignore the bg, it's just for lighting)
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