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From: John D Gwinner
Subject: Re: WIP - Nice View 2 (Dome city on Mars, AA+Rad)
Date: 17 Feb 2005 17:06:21
Message: <4215155d$1@news.povray.org>
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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] inter nl net> wrote in message
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> Funny? Oh, I am afraid to miss something here I am afraid.
Ok, it maybe too subtle, which I need to think about.
"Nice View" refers to 3 POV's:
1) The viewer looking at the valley, which we consider unusual. The locals
see it every day
2) The woman to the right looking down at the city from the view high above
it
3) The guy on the right checking out the woman.
The problem with 3) is that the radiosity settings make the lighting too
stark, so the cleavage she's showing as she bends over to look is somewhat
lost. I really don't want to make her into Anna Nicole to make it obvious!
The dress is a bit borderline as it is.
Funny thing about poser clothes that are available - the guys are all about
uniforms and the women are all about ... well, let's just say there isn't a
big variety of normal clothes.
== John ==
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: WIP - Nice View 2 (Dome city on Mars, AA+Rad)
Date: 19 Feb 2005 07:36:54
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"John D. Gwinner" <joh### [at] cornell edu> schreef in bericht
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>
>
> Ok, it maybe too subtle, which I need to think about.
>
> "Nice View" refers to 3 POV's:
>
> 1) The viewer looking at the valley, which we consider unusual. The
locals
> see it every day
> 2) The woman to the right looking down at the city from the view high
above
> it
> 3) The guy on the right checking out the woman.
>
> The problem with 3) is that the radiosity settings make the lighting too
> stark, so the cleavage she's showing as she bends over to look is somewhat
> lost. I really don't want to make her into Anna Nicole to make it
obvious!
> The dress is a bit borderline as it is.
>
> Funny thing about poser clothes that are available - the guys are all
about
> uniforms and the women are all about ... well, let's just say there isn't
a
> big variety of normal clothes.
>
Got it! Better be subtle than too obvious I guess. I had not looked at the
image that way. Then, indeed, I think the head of the guy is not turned in
the correct position as he seems to watch the landscape beyond the dome. I
suppose his face should almost be straight on.
Yes, I remarked the clothes "selection" of Poser or Daz. Rather ill-fitted
for most of the business as usual type of environments :-)
Thomas
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From: John D Gwinner
Subject: Re: WIP - Nice View 2 (Dome city on Mars, AA+Rad)
Date: 20 Feb 2005 02:44:13
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> Got it! Better be subtle than too obvious I guess. I had not looked at the
> image that way. Then, indeed, I think the head of the guy is not turned in
> the correct position as he seems to watch the landscape beyond the dome. I
> suppose his face should almost be straight on.
I think he's actually pointed the correct way although I posed them
independantly in Poser. However, you're the second person to say the same
thing, so I'll tilt his head more forward.
>
> Yes, I remarked the clothes "selection" of Poser or Daz. Rather ill-fitted
> for most of the business as usual type of environments :-)
heh. Well, the funny thing is that he's wearing shorts - my theory being
that all the builds are more or less 'indoors' so it's more like a Hawaii
kind of envioronment, without the rain. You're going to be glad you're not
cooped up in a suit so people won't wear much.
I've been fiddling with the terrain some, will post other WIP's soon. I'm
trying to think of an 'imposter' scene.
I guess the whole city from another angle might look 'out of place' - the
green against the martian sands.
== John ==
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: WIP - Nice View 2 (Dome city on Mars, AA+Rad)
Date: 20 Feb 2005 03:00:14
Message: <4218438e$1@news.povray.org>
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"John D. Gwinner" <joh### [at] cornell edu> schreef in bericht
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> heh. Well, the funny thing is that he's wearing shorts - my theory being
> that all the builds are more or less 'indoors' so it's more like a Hawaii
> kind of envioronment, without the rain. You're going to be glad you're
not
> cooped up in a suit so people won't wear much.
>
Just a thought. Mars being a really cold planet (thin atmosphere; distant
Sun) I wonder how warm it would get inside the dome without some substantial
artificial heating. On Earth, hot houses are heated during winter... so, is
a Hawaiian kind of environment the obvious one? Never mind. Just mumbling
away a bit. ;-)
Thomas
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Thomas de Groot nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2005-02-20 03:00:
> "John D. Gwinner" <joh### [at] cornell edu> schreef in bericht
> news:42183fcd$1@news.povray.org...
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>>heh. Well, the funny thing is that he's wearing shorts - my theory being
>>that all the builds are more or less 'indoors' so it's more like a Hawaii
>>kind of envioronment, without the rain. You're going to be glad you're
>
> not
>
>>cooped up in a suit so people won't wear much.
>>
>
> Just a thought. Mars being a really cold planet (thin atmosphere; distant
> Sun) I wonder how warm it would get inside the dome without some substantial
> artificial heating. On Earth, hot houses are heated during winter... so, is
> a Hawaiian kind of environment the obvious one? Never mind. Just mumbling
> away a bit. ;-)
>
> Thomas
>
>
When you have a whole city under a dome, you get a LOT of heat generated by all the
peoples,
lighting, motors, you name it... In fact, you may need to cool it down with some heavy
duty climate
control.
Alain
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: WIP - Nice View 2 (Dome city on Mars, AA+Rad)
Date: 22 Feb 2005 03:07:06
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"Alain" <ele### [at] netscape net> schreef in bericht
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> >
> When you have a whole city under a dome, you get a LOT of heat generated
by all the peoples,
> lighting, motors, you name it... In fact, you may need to cool it down
with some heavy duty climate
> control.
>
Ah, yes. That might do the trick indeed.
Thomas
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From: John D Gwinner
Subject: Re: WIP - Nice View 2 (Dome city on Mars, AA+Rad)
Date: 22 Feb 2005 10:55:25
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"Alain" <ele### [at] netscape net> wrote in message
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> When you have a whole city under a dome, you get a LOT of heat generated
> by all the peoples, lighting, motors, you name it... In fact, you may need
> to cool it down with some heavy duty climate control.
That's an interesting point, especially as I'd considered putting the power
generation inside the city to reuse the waste heat as steam. This might not
be necessary then. (it might still be a good idea, however). Cities used
to do this for power generation, and it saved a lot of electricity.
== John ==
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