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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Miss you - WIP (Last update)
Date: 29 Dec 2004 05:26:02
Message: <41d2863a@news.povray.org>
> I notice that your primary light source(s) are behind the camera
SNIP [technical jargon for media and lightsources]

The clouds are in their own lightgroup and are limited roughly to the
visible area, so that's not a problem.

> Anyway, if you liked the blue-white contrast that someone mentioned the
> image had last time, then I'd encourage you to make the clouds even more
> subtle (less dense).

I'm still experimenting on that, but I kinda like the added color.

> By the way, I see now that the fence is zig-zagging; I didn't notice this
> before because I didn't look at its shadow.

It's not really zig-zag, but more random placement of the poles. Perhaps
less would be better. In addition, the shadow might be a little off, the
fence's beams are slightly drooping as well as being placed first in front
and then behind the poles.

> Is there snow on the nearby part of the fence?

No, just some texture. Another detail I need to work on, but shouldn't be
too difficult.

Regards,
Tim

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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Miss you - WIP (Last update)
Date: 29 Dec 2004 05:26:57
Message: <41d28671@news.povray.org>
> Wow!
> That's great!

Thanks!

> But... Didn't you forgot to add snow on the barn?

Will do.

> And I agree with the others: I think the barn is too much red.

Yup, on the to-do list.

Regards,
Tim

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From: "Jérôme M. Berger"
Subject: Re: Miss you - WIP (Last update)
Date: 29 Dec 2004 06:37:27
Message: <41d296f7$1@news.povray.org>
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	It's very good, but the border of the forest looks strange. Maybe
simply moving the bushes so that they are more under the first row of
trees would help? Otherwise, you can take a look at this link:
http://mairie.arches.free.fr/foret.htm

	The text is in french, but there are several drawings of different
kinds of forest borders. (For those who wonder, the page describes
how the forest edge should be to resist being damaged in case of
tempest).

		Jerome

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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Miss you - WIP (Last update)
Date: 29 Dec 2004 10:40:09
Message: <41d2cfd9@news.povray.org>
I love the addition of the barn.  I think it adds much to the picture 
both compositionally and narratively.  The shadow seems a bit 
disconcerting, not because of its sharpness, but because it is not 
laying flat.  It seems to be falling on an incline.  I don't know if 
your placement of the barn is physically sensible or not.  It may be one 
of those moments when the brain won't accept the illustion no matter how 
correctly it is mapped from reality.  This happens all the time when 
painting or drawing.  The artist has to change the actual record of the 
  tones or edge angles or whatever to get a result the mind accepts as 
more convincing.


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Miss you - WIP (Last update)
Date: 29 Dec 2004 18:02:44
Message: <41d33794$1@news.povray.org>
> It's very good, but the border of the forest looks strange. Maybe
> simply moving the bushes so that they are more under the first row of
> trees would help?

The bushes actually *are* very close and inside the forest, but the front
bushes may be obscuring that. As it is, I think I won't change much on that
anymore. You can get only so close on your first try, and then need other
images, different settings etc to gather some experience. For this image, I
call the forest edge (aside of the missing grass-blades I plan to add) a
wrap. Thanks for the link though, interesting stuff (though I'd need to get
more into french again, only had it a few years in school and wasn't my best
course...).

Regards,
Tim

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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Miss you - WIP (Last update)
Date: 29 Dec 2004 18:04:54
Message: <41d33816@news.povray.org>
> I love the addition of the barn.  I think it adds much to the picture
> both compositionally and narratively.  The shadow seems a bit
> disconcerting, not because of its sharpness, but because it is not
> laying flat.

What you're actually seeing is not the shadow of the barn, but a
side-addition. Attached to this post a small photo gathered somewhere from
the web as reference.

That aside, the shadow probably does fall on some hills or such, the image
makes heavy usage of forced perspective, but *looks* okay.

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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Miss you - WIP (Last update)
Date: 29 Dec 2004 19:51:06
Message: <41d350fa$1@news.povray.org>
Tim Nikias wrote:
>>I love the addition of the barn.  I think it adds much to the picture
>>both compositionally and narratively.  The shadow seems a bit
>>disconcerting, not because of its sharpness, but because it is not
>>laying flat.
> 
> 
> What you're actually seeing is not the shadow of the barn, but a
> side-addition. Attached to this post a small photo gathered somewhere from
> the web as reference.
> 
> That aside, the shadow probably does fall on some hills or such, the image
> makes heavy usage of forced perspective, but *looks* okay.
> 
> 
Oh.  That's called the "bridge" of the barn


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From: Statler
Subject: Re: Miss you - WIP (Last update)
Date: 30 Dec 2004 06:55:01
Message: <web.41d3ec7350663a55841517f40@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> Tim Nikias wrote:
> >>I love the addition of the barn.  I think it adds much to the picture
> >>both compositionally and narratively.  The shadow seems a bit
> >>disconcerting, not because of its sharpness, but because it is not
> >>laying flat.
> >
> >
> > What you're actually seeing is not the shadow of the barn, but a
> > side-addition. Attached to this post a small photo gathered somewhere from
> > the web as reference.
> >
> > That aside, the shadow probably does fall on some hills or such, the image
> > makes heavy usage of forced perspective, but *looks* okay.
> >
> >
> Oh.  That's called the "bridge" of the barn


We always called it the "lean-to" :)

Tim, it's amazing how much that picture reminds me of the farm where I grew
up. The barn looks almost identical. Nice work.


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Miss you - WIP (Last update)
Date: 30 Dec 2004 07:49:41
Message: <41d3f965$1@news.povray.org>
> Tim, it's amazing how much that picture reminds me of the farm where I
grew
> up. The barn looks almost identical. Nice work.

Thanks. It's good to know that I'm getting the details right. :-)

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Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Miss you - WIP (Last update)
Date: 30 Dec 2004 11:55:01
Message: <cr1bn7$m51$1@chho.imagico.de>
Tim Nikias wrote:
> So, after christmas matters were resolved, I had some time again to work on
> the image. 

Very nice, not extremely realistic in texturing but message and 
composition well compensate for that.

> 
> As always, suggestions and comments welcome, even though this is "near
> final".

Maybe it's just not visible at this size but the fence seems to lack 
snow coverage.  Same for the building.

Christoph

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