"Shay" <sah### [at] simcopartscom> wrote in message
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> "Jeremy M. Praay" <sla### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> | Please offer ([very] specific) advice.  I'm new to this, and won't
> | be offended.  :-)  I've done most of my basement by myself, and
> | frankly, it shows, though I'm still somewhat proud of myself.
> | Should that be moved to p.o-t?
>
> The basement looks great in the photos.

What you can't see is how I used too much joint compound, which resulted in
wavey walls at the dry-wall seems.  No one notices, if I don't point that
out, though.  That and a couple other minor things, like holes that were
just just a tad too big (or too high) for the electrical outlets.  We had
someone else do the carpeting, and they did a great job.  We just recently
stained the doors and added the base and door trim.

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> I'll post something in p.o-t Thursday evening if not before. I can tell
> you now that Formica countertop cannot be used as a building material.
> It will sag under its own weight if not supported on all four sides.
> Even if that were not the case, you can only screw into it a half inch.
> The formica countertop will only be a cover for a frame which must be
> sturdy without it.
>
> You will need some type of leg at the L, but it can be set back far
> enough to make room for a chair and knees there. Still, you won't want
> to sit on the edge of this desk. I will post a detailed plan Thursday
> evening which can be realized with your tools.

Thanks!  I think I'm starting to see what you mean about the frame.  In
particular, the miter joint would probably be under a great amount of
stress.  I don't mind buying a few more boards, if necessary.  I've also
considered possibly needing addtional supports, like the edges, in the
middle.  I'd just want to make sure they were not in knee range (i.e. I'd
like to keep them between the chairs).

> Do you have wood or aluminum studs in the wall?

Wood studs (2x4's), and 1/2" drywall, iirc.

ok, I'm really o-t now...  :-/  ...need new group povray.tools.carpentry
;-)

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Jeremy
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"Dave Matthews" <dma### [at] nospamnet> wrote in message
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> Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
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> > Here's my actual design hashed out in Paint, as well as a picture of my
> > "real" basement, though I'm not sure why I'm throwing that in.
>
> Nice sphere, but you really should replace the carpet with a checkered
> plane, since it's the first post of your basement.
>


Nope, not the first time posted, but my basement scene was my first picture
ever posted here (I was "Slashdolt" back then).  That was shortly after I
started working on my "Radio Graves" scene, and I was still a newbie to the
group here, but the basement scene was done a few months prior.

http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/thread/%3C3e3154b2%40news.povray.org%3E/?ttop=188582&toff=1450

I guess I didn't get the sphere-on-a-checkered-plane joke back then, but in
my defense, there are two spheres, and the ceiling is kind of checkered
like, and I think I used "quilted" for the floor.  ;-)

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"Jeremy M. Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecom> wrote in message
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> "Dave Matthews" <dma### [at] nospamnet> wrote in message
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> >
> > Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
> >
> > > Here's my actual design hashed out in Paint, as well as a picture of
my
> > > "real" basement, though I'm not sure why I'm throwing that in.
> >
> > Nice sphere, but you really should replace the carpet with a checkered
> > plane, since it's the first post of your basement.
> >
>

Oh... You meant my "real basement."  Why do I never get the joke until after
I click "Send"?  sigh...

Oh well, at least I got to talk about myself, which I always seem to enjoy.
:-p

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"Jeremy M. Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecom> wrote in message
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| Thanks!  I think I'm starting to see what you mean about the frame.
| In particular, the miter joint would probably be under a great
| amount of stress.  I don't mind buying a few more boards, if
| necessary.  I've also considered possibly needing addtional
| supports, like the edges, in the middle.  I'd just want to make
| sure they were not in knee range (i.e. I'd like to keep them between
| the chairs).

Depends on how much you want to spend. If you've got the scratch for a
couple sheets of 3/4" plywood, then you can support the whole thing with
angle brackets and it could *almost* double as a guest bed. This is the
way I would go. It won't be cheap, but you could be enjoying it by next
weekend.

It can be done with boards as well, but sliding keyboards would be less
convenient and the construction process would take a lot more time. Plus
you would need that center leg, though you could set it back up to
twenty inches (fourteen inches from the corner of the room).

-Shay
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Among other things, Jeremy M. Praay wrote:

> Here's my actual design hashed out in Paint, as well as a picture of my
> "real" basement, though I'm not sure why I'm throwing that in.

Is that a "real" picture? It looks like a POV rendering, especially the 
lighting... I guess it goes to say how realistic some scenes are :-)

Have you tried replicating that same picture?

-- 
light_source{9+9*x,1}camera{orthographic look_at(1-y)/4angle 30location
9/4-z*4}light_source{-9*z,1}union{box{.9-z.1+x clipped_by{plane{2+y-4*x
0}}}box{z-y-.1.1+z}box{-.1.1+x}box{.1z-.1}pigment{rgb<.8.2,1>}}//Jellby

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"Jellby" <jel### [at] M-yahoocom> wrote in message
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> Among other things, Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
>
> > Here's my actual design hashed out in Paint, as well as a picture of my
> > "real" basement, though I'm not sure why I'm throwing that in.
>
> Is that a "real" picture? It looks like a POV rendering, especially the
> lighting... I guess it goes to say how realistic some scenes are :-)

Yes, even a novice can make pretty realistic scenes.  Radiosity + area
lights can do wonders.

>
> Have you tried replicating that same picture?
>

Not exactly like that.  I actually took that picture a couple days ago, long
after my scene was already complete.  I've thought that some day I might use
my basement scene as part of a "real" scene, but so far, I haven't really
thought of anything inspiring going on in my basement.

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Jeremy
www.beantoad.com

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