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From: gonzo
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 23 Jun 2003 14:55:01
Message: <web.3ef74c5eb30c05f9a0c272b50@news.povray.org>
Tek wrote:
>I've added a parasol and deck chair, and improved the texturing on the rock.
>Note the very bottom of the rock is darker, to suggest it's wet.
>

Rock texture is much better!  The objects do change the whole scale and
perspective... hmmm... the parasol doesn't fit, but chair looks good.

Birds would be good to break up the open space.  Or maybe another fractal or
two drifting down out of the sky...?

RG


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 23 Jun 2003 15:46:44
Message: <3ef75924$1@news.povray.org>
Well I felt it looked empty at any size.

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"bml" <bml### [at] 00billy00com> wrote in message news:3ef70edc$1@news.povray.org...
> I like it better without the additions. If it looks empty at a large size,
> then this might just be a picture which isn't meant to be a poster.
>
>


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 23 Jun 2003 15:48:00
Message: <3ef75970$1@news.povray.org>
Doh! I hit send before I finished typing!

What I was going to say was: I felt it looked empty at any size, plus I don't
think there's such thing as a good image which isn't meant to be a poster!

I'm sure I can capture this feeling in a poster, I just need to put a little
work into it.

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"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in message
news:3ef75924$1@news.povray.org...
> Well I felt it looked empty at any size.
>
> --
> Tek
> http://www.evilsuperbrain.com
>
> "bml" <bml### [at] 00billy00com> wrote in message news:3ef70edc$1@news.povray.org...
> > I like it better without the additions. If it looks empty at a large size,
> > then this might just be a picture which isn't meant to be a poster.
> >
> >
>
>


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 23 Jun 2003 15:51:19
Message: <3ef75a37$1@news.povray.org>
"gonzo" <rgo### [at] lansetcom> wrote in message
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> Rock texture is much better!

Woohoo! at last somebody noticed :)

>  The objects do change the whole scale and
> perspective... hmmm... the parasol doesn't fit, but chair looks good.

Yeah I like the chair (did you see the close-ups I posted as a reply to grassy
v2?) I think I'll leave it out of this scene for now, but put it back in later
to see if it could work.

> Birds would be good to break up the open space.  Or maybe another fractal or
> two drifting down out of the sky...?

I've been trying to think of something to do with more fractals, the best I
could come up with was some fractal clouds but they would look out of place. I
don't want more of this kind of fractal, because I feel it works better being so
out of place.

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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 23 Jun 2003 15:55:45
Message: <3ef75b41@news.povray.org>
> "Chris Johnson" <chr### [at] chris-jcouk> wrote in
> news:3ef61dcf$1@news.povray.org:
> Or a line of lemmings coming from around the back and jumping off the cliff
> in the foreground?

No, this is a picture about a julia fractal, not about small mammals with
suicidal tendencies.

> Or a pink flamingo coming in for a landing with its feet forward and wings
> outstreched?

Interesting idea. The colour would offset the blues and greens nicely. Though it
may be a little beyond my abilities.
My current working version of the scene has a big space of water suitable for a
bird to be landing on, so I'll bear it in mind.

> Or a tiger in the grass sleeping on it's back with it's paws in the air?

Tigers don't sleep like that, they curl up i balls like domestic cats, or lie on
their bellies. A tiger might look good (probably a white one though, yellow
would blend into the grass too much), but it seems illogical. Well, if there's
any logic in a floating rock.

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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 23 Jun 2003 15:57:07
Message: <3ef75b93$1@news.povray.org>
"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in message
news:3ef75a37$1@news.povray.org...
> "gonzo" <rgo### [at] lansetcom> wrote in message
> news:web.3ef74c5eb30c05f9a0c272b50@news.povray.org...
> > Birds would be good to break up the open space.  Or maybe another fractal or
> > two drifting down out of the sky...?
>
> I've been trying to think of something to do with more fractals, the best I
> could come up with was some fractal clouds but they would look out of place. I
> don't want more of this kind of fractal, because I feel it works better being
so
> out of place.

Hey I just had an idea! What if I have a dolphin jumping out of the sea in the
middle distance, and the splash behind him froms the shape of another fractal?
I think I might try that :)

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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 23 Jun 2003 15:58:15
Message: <3ef75bd7$1@news.povray.org>
"JC (Exether)" <no### [at] spamfr> wrote in message news:3EF### [at] spamfr...
> I think I like it more with only natural features, like trees and the
> like. But it's just my opinion.

Yours and mine, and several other people. I'm moving in that natural direction
now, we'll see how v4 turns out :)

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From: Mack Tuesday
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 23 Jun 2003 18:10:01
Message: <web.3ef779deb30c05f98c62a7cb0@news.povray.org>
Tek wrote:
>"gonzo" <rgo### [at] lansetcom> wrote in message
>news:web.3ef74c5eb30c05f9a0c272b50[at]news.povray.org...
>> Rock texture is much better!
>
>Woohoo! at last somebody noticed :)

I noticed too.  I thought the older one had too many blemishes.

>>  The objects do change the whole scale and
>> perspective... hmmm... the parasol doesn't fit, but chair looks good.

I agree about this.  Perhaps you could put a drink on the armrest of the
chair.
Yeah, and put the parasol in that!

>I've been trying to think of something to do with more fractals, the best I
>could come up with was some fractal clouds but they would look out of place. I
>don't want more of this kind of fractal, because I feel it works better being
>so out of place.

I agree.

This is turning out to be a very exciting piece!  An excellent, simple idea
that I wish I had thought of myself, that I probably wouldn't have realized
as beautifully as you have.  Keep up the good work!


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 24 Jun 2003 14:17:20
Message: <3ef895b0@news.povray.org>
"Mack Tuesday" <mailbjl@yahoo> wrote in message
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> Tek wrote:
> >"gonzo" <rgo### [at] lansetcom> wrote in message
> >news:web.3ef74c5eb30c05f9a0c272b50[at]news.povray.org...
> >> Rock texture is much better!
> >
> >Woohoo! at last somebody noticed :)
>
> I noticed too.  I thought the older one had too many blemishes.

Yeah, it was a bit flat too. Though in the meantime I tried a couple of
completely different textures based on some image maps I've got, and it wasn't
until I compared them to the old version that I realised they looked worse! That
wasted a few hours, but at least I got something good eventually.

> I agree about this.  Perhaps you could put a drink on the armrest of the
> chair.
> Yeah, and put the parasol in that!

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http://www.evilsuperbrain.com

>
> >>  The objects do change the whole scale and
> >> perspective... hmmm... the parasol doesn't fit, but chair looks good.
>
> I agree about this.  Perhaps you could put a drink on the armrest of the
> chair.
> Yeah, and put the parasol in that!
>
> >I've been trying to think of something to do with more fractals, the best I
> >could come up with was some fractal clouds but they would look out of place.
I
> >don't want more of this kind of fractal, because I feel it works better being
> >so out of place.
>
> I agree.
>
> This is turning out to be a very exciting piece!  An excellent, simple idea
> that I wish I had thought of myself, that I probably wouldn't have realized
> as beautifully as you have.  Keep up the good work!
>
>
>


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Grassy julia v3
Date: 24 Jun 2003 14:20:04
Message: <3ef89654@news.povray.org>
Oops! I hit send before I'd finished writing...

> I noticed too.  I thought the older one had too many blemishes.

Yeah, it was a bit flat too. Though in the meantime I tried a couple of
completely different textures based on some image maps I've got, and it wasn't
until I compared them to the old version that I realised they looked worse! That
wasted a few hours, but at least I got something good eventually.

> I agree about this.  Perhaps you could put a drink on the armrest of the
> chair.
> Yeah, and put the parasol in that!

Cool idea! I could leave the pov logo on the parasol soit's only visible as a
tiny detail in the final poster-sized render :)

> This is turning out to be a very exciting piece!  An excellent, simple idea
> that I wish I had thought of myself, that I probably wouldn't have realized
> as beautifully as you have.  Keep up the good work!

Thanks :)

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