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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Seven dots show the sky
Date: 19 Nov 2002 19:09:17
Message: <3ddad2ad$1@news.povray.org>
JPGargoyle wrote:
> Cool, but the shadows are weird.
>
> Is this just one render or a composition?
>
> I'm asking because each sphere has just one
> shadow, all pointing in different directions
> and not consistent with the suns position.

The shadows are perfectly normal, and they *are* consistent with the
position of the sun. :)

Instead, consider which camera is used...

Rune
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From: JPGargoyle
Subject: Re: Seven dots show the sky
Date: 19 Nov 2002 19:28:00
Message: <3ddad710@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <run### [at] runevisioncom> wrote in message
news:3ddad2ad$1@news.povray.org...
> The shadows are perfectly normal, and they *are* consistent with the
> position of the sun. :)
>
They are?

> Instead, consider which camera is used...
>
Hmmm... spherical? cylindrical? fisheye? NO camera? :))

I can't tell. :P


Best regards.


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From: Rafal 'Raf256' Maj
Subject: Re: Seven dots show the sky
Date: 19 Nov 2002 19:35:49
Message: <Xns92CCFA3758CAraf256com@204.213.191.226>
"JPGargoyle" <jot### [at] netcabopt> wrote in news:3ddad710@news.povray.org

>> The shadows are perfectly normal, and they *are* consistent with the
>> position of the sun. :)
>> Instead, consider which camera is used...
> Hmmm... spherical? cylindrical? fisheye? NO camera? :))

Looks like 360 (horivontal) by 90 (*vertical) :)


-- 
#macro g(U,V)(.4*abs(sin(9*sqrt(pow(x-U,2)+pow(y-V,2))))*pow(1-min(1,(sqrt(
pow(x-U,2)+pow(y-V,2))*.3)),2)+.9)#end#macro p(c)#if(c>1)#local l=mod(c,100
);g(2*div(l,10)-8,2*mod(l,10)-8)*p(div(c,100))#else 1#end#end light_source{
y 2}sphere{z*20 9pigment{function{p(26252423)*p(36455644)*p(66656463)}}}//M


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From: Philippe Debar
Subject: Re: Seven dots show the sky
Date: 20 Nov 2002 02:24:19
Message: <3ddb38a3$1@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <run### [at] runevisioncom> wrote :
> The shadows are perfectly normal, and they *are* consistent with the
> position of the sun. :)
>
> Instead, consider which camera is used...


Exact !

The camera used is spherical one with angles 372.9 (horizontal) x 180
(vertical).

The spheres are on a circle, not a line.


Povingly,


Philippe


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From: JPGargoyle
Subject: Re: Seven dots show the sky
Date: 20 Nov 2002 05:30:05
Message: <web.3ddb6320af7e671641f1e9f0@news.povray.org>
Philippe Debar wrote:
>Exact !
>
>The camera used is spherical one with angles 372.9 (horizontal) x 180
>(vertical).
>
>The spheres are on a circle, not a line.

Ah! Now I understood it! (EURECA)

The camera is at the center of the circle right?

Don't you have a way of making one of those 360 degrees photos that we can
see all around with Quicktime? That would be cool :))


Best regards.


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From: Philippe Debar
Subject: Re: Seven dots show the sky
Date: 20 Nov 2002 07:20:00
Message: <3ddb7df0@news.povray.org>
JPGargoyle wrote:
> Ah! Now I understood it! (EURECA)
> 
> The camera is at the center of the circle right?

Right.

> Don't you have a way of making one of those 360 degrees photos that we can
> see all around with Quicktime? That would be cool :))

I know it is possible but I never tried. IIRC Apple has a free tool for 
doing this for MacOs and Windows (but it is difficult to find as it is 
part of a larger download). IIRC (again) Thorsten has posted the url 
some times ago, so you could do a search with the web interface.


Povingly,


Philippe


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From: Alex
Subject: Re: Seven dots show the sky
Date: 20 Nov 2002 10:25:10
Message: <web.3ddba8d9af7e67115e7f0160@news.povray.org>
>What do you think ?

Nice!

How does it handle extremes (i.e. sunrise and sunset)?
Did you manage to figure out how to apply the hinted model of haze in Pov's
media?

Could you please, pretty please, show us the source?
(I know, I'm avid. It's my nature, can't resist a sourcebait like this).

Alex


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From: Philippe Debar
Subject: Re: Seven dots show the sky
Date: 20 Nov 2002 13:22:06
Message: <3ddbd2ce@news.povray.org>
> Nice!

:-D Thanks !


> How does it handle extremes (i.e. sunrise and sunset)?

See attached images (turbidity 1.0 and 8.0 skies)
Sunrise is the same as sunset, except for the orientation (which isn't yet
implemented)

> Did you manage to figure out how to apply the hinted model of haze in
Pov's
> media?

I figured I would pass, as I believe it would require a patch (or a
post-process).
But I will surely try one day to reproduce it with media, loosing all the
speed which was the model point.


> Could you please, pretty please, show us the source?

Soon, I promise. But right now it is still quickly  mutating.

Povingly,

Philippe


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Seven dots show the sky
Date: 20 Nov 2002 13:36:11
Message: <20021120193611.6014e549.jaimevives@ignorancia.org>
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:38:26 +0100
"Philippe Debar" <phd### [at] wanadoobe> wrote:

> This is the first viewable result of a sky include file I am writing.
> I am still struggling with certain aspects and the file - though
> usable - isn't as smooth as I'd like it to be.

  Hmmm... very nice. I also was tricked at first by the camera, but only
for some seconds... :)

> It is designed to work with (and without) sunpos.inc and Jaimes Vives
> Piqueres' light macros, although the integration isn't complete yet.

  Well, these macros are more intended for indoor use, but nothing
prevents from using sunlight or skylight spectrums with them. Indeed, be
warned that these macros are highly experimental and still subject to
change an undeterminate number of times.

-- 
Jaime Vives Piqueres
		
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org


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From: Philippe Debar
Subject: Re: Seven dots show the sky
Date: 20 Nov 2002 13:59:30
Message: <3ddbdb92$1@news.povray.org>
"Jaime Vives Piqueres" <jai### [at] ignoranciaorg> wrote in message
> > This is the first viewable result of a sky include file I am writing.
> > I am still struggling with certain aspects and the file - though
> > usable - isn't as smooth as I'd like it to be.
>
>   Hmmm... very nice.

Thanks :-D

> I also was tricked at first by the camera, but only
> for some seconds... :)

I hesitated to post a more detailled explanation, but I wanted not to tire
the readers.


> > It is designed to work with (and without) sunpos.inc and Jaimes Vives
> > Piqueres' light macros, although the integration isn't complete yet.
>
>   Well, these macros are more intended for indoor use, but nothing
> prevents from using sunlight or skylight spectrums with them.Indeed, be
> warned that these macros are highly experimental and still subject to
> change an undeterminate number of times.

Yes, I know. And I took steps to make my file easy to transform to follow
your macros ;-)
Right now, I only use COLOR_FILTER and REF_WHITE to transform the sky's
colors. I don't have any idea (yet) of how to integrate MAX_LUMEN. I guess I
need to learn a bit more scientific knowledge.


Povingly,


Philippe


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