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From: Tim McMurdo
Subject: WIP US Brig Niagara
Date: 6 Nov 2002 07:31:58
Message: <3dc90bbe@news.povray.org>
I thought you might enjoy an update onthe status of this project.

Still a lot of modelling to go on the ship, mostly in the rigging and in the
sails. As you can see, textures are still my weekness.

This is my first experience with trace. I use it to position the ship on the
surface of the water and to allow it to roll with the waves. The wind
direction and speed also determines how much the ship rolls, but I am still
tweeking this function.

The water is generated using waves.inc. Though I am not happy with the
texture of the water.

I lookforward to your criticism because I could use it.

Thanks,

Tim


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: WIP US Brig Niagara
Date: 6 Nov 2002 07:53:59
Message: <3dc910e7@news.povray.org>
"Tim McMurdo" <tmc### [at] prodigynet> wrote in message
news:3dc90bbe@news.povray.org...
>
> The water is generated using waves.inc. Though I am not happy with the
> texture of the water.
>

It looks as though you should scale the waves smaller? Also, have you read
Christoph's water tutorial (I assume the waves.inc was from Christoph's site,
but just in case):
http://www-public.tu-bs.de:8080/~y0013390/pov/water/index.html


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From: Tim Mcmurdo
Subject: Re: WIP US Brig Niagara
Date: 6 Nov 2002 08:10:05
Message: <web.3dc91379abd44bb1da715b70@news.povray.org>
Tom,

I wanted to have long rolling swells, so I scaled the waves large. I am
struggling to get the faceted texture found in real waves. Yes I am much in
dept to Cristoph.


Tom Melly wrote:

>"Tim McMurdo" <tmc### [at] prodigynet> wrote in message
>news:3dc90bbe[at]news.povray.org...
>>
>> The water is generated using waves.inc. Though I am not happy with the
>> texture of the water.
>>
>
>It looks as though you should scale the waves smaller? Also, have you read
>Christoph's water tutorial (I assume the waves.inc was from Christoph's site,
>but just in case):
>http://www-public.tu-bs.de:8080/~y0013390/pov/water/index.html
>


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From: Hugo
Subject: Re: WIP US Brig Niagara
Date: 6 Nov 2002 08:18:57
Message: <3dc916c1@news.povray.org>
Hi,

I remember your project. It's nice to see you haven't given up, and
obviously you know how a sailboat should look (better than I do). Textures
could be improved, and the enviroment (light and reflections). But these
things usually slow down a rendering, so you should finish the modelling
first.

Here's a few hints: The ropes change between visible and invisible. This is
because you use a cheap Anti-Alias. It renders faster but kills some
details. Try these settings: +AM2 +A0.15 +R2 -J

The sky is too simple. You could try to imitate a real atmosphere:
http://www.vterrain.org/Atmosphere/  (the best link I could find right now)

Water needs finer details.

Regards,
Hugo


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From: Tim Mcmurdo
Subject: Re: WIP US Brig Niagara
Date: 6 Nov 2002 11:30:04
Message: <web.3dc942a3abd44bb1da715b70@news.povray.org>
Hugo,

I am currently using a AA setting of +A0, but will try your settings.

I have been experimenting with fastclouds.inc, but am not satisfied with the
results yet (Water & Ship alone currently require approx. 8 hours with
radiosity, so atmospheric work comes slowly). I'll take a look at your
links.


Thanks,

Tim

Hugo wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I remember your project. It's nice to see you haven't given up, and
>obviously you know how a sailboat should look (better than I do). Textures
>could be improved, and the enviroment (light and reflections). But these
>things usually slow down a rendering, so you should finish the modelling
>first.
>
>Here's a few hints: The ropes change between visible and invisible. This is
>because you use a cheap Anti-Alias. It renders faster but kills some
>details. Try these settings: +AM2 +A0.15 +R2 -J
>
>The sky is too simple. You could try to imitate a real atmosphere:
>http://www.vterrain.org/Atmosphere/  (the best link I could find right now)
>
>Water needs finer details.
>
>Regards,
>Hugo
>


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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: WIP US Brig Niagara
Date: 6 Nov 2002 12:47:17
Message: <3dc955a5$2@news.povray.org>
Is a brig a class of vessel-- or is this a sailing prison?


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From: Tim Mcmurdo
Subject: Re: WIP US Brig Niagara
Date: 6 Nov 2002 12:55:04
Message: <web.3dc95746abd44bb9a303f820@news.povray.org>
Lol, in this case it is a class of sailing vessel. 2 Masts & square rigged.


Greg M. Johnson wrote:
>Is a brig a class of vessel-- or is this a sailing prison?
>


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From: Hugo
Subject: Re: WIP US Brig Niagara
Date: 6 Nov 2002 16:22:30
Message: <3dc98816@news.povray.org>
> I am currently using a AA setting of +A0, but will try your settings.

+A0.0 is even better but you need the other settings too, for the thin lines
to remain visible all the way.

> I have been experimenting with fastclouds.inc

I'm not aware of any clouds that cast realistic shadows, unless you use
media, and that means 'slow' clouds... Btw, I don't think you 'need' clouds
for the image to become realiastic.

Regards,
Hugo


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