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Folks:
I have been working the last few days on some ideas
for Spectacular Landscapes.
Here is something that I came up with. It's a work
in progress and only the land mass and water have been
completed.
Any suggestions or critiques?
Thanks.
Aaron
Aaron Gillies
New York City
x3rxes[*]yahoo.com
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Perhaps I misunderstood the topic description, but isn't it supposed to be
specific landscapes that actually exist in real life?
- Slime
[ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
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It seems that it is open to interpretation.
See Ken Tyler's posting on irtc.stills.
I guess it will be up to individual voters to judge
whether a contribution is on-topic or not, but
what he said seemed to make sense to me.
Aaron
Aaron Gillies
New York City
x3rxes[&]yahoo.com
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"Aaron Gillies" <no### [at] spam com> wrote in message news:3d89524f$1@news.povray.org...
> It seems that it is open to interpretation.
> See Ken Tyler's posting on irtc.stills.
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> I guess it will be up to individual voters to judge
> whether a contribution is on-topic or not, but
> what he said seemed to make sense to me.
It made sense to me too, and if you could see my image right now, you'd be
surprised how similar our ideas are so far. But that's the fun in it isn't it. To
see how these images turn out in the end.
As for your image, I like the texture on your terrain and the water, but as
the topic is 'Spectacular Landscapes' I would pan out more and make the water
ripples much smaller to give the image some distance.
Nice start though.
~Steve~
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> Aaron
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> Aaron Gillies
> New York City
> x3rxes[&]yahoo.com
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On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:18:51 -0400 "Aaron Gillies" wrote:
> Here is something that I came up with. It's a work
> in progress and only the land mass and water have been
> completed.
The water is nice. With the landscape (when it is textured)
reflecting in it, it should look natural. But don't take my word
for it, listen to the POV gurus :)
Are you purposefully trying to achieve that "faceted" look on the
land mass? It looks a bit odd to me.
-Kedar
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Nice work, but the water in the horisont has the same luminance as the sky,
and should probably be darker in my opinion. Except if you want the water to
fade with the horisont, because of fog, but it doesn't look like you have
fog.
The ripples are too uniform. You could add some variation by introduce some
wind, to vary the strength of the ripples.. Also, the scale of the ripples
suggest the rocks are too small, in my opinion.. Not that you need to limit
the size of the ripples, but perhaps add some smaller waves.. Sub waves..
Have you tried Christoph Hormann's implementation of realistic "sine-water"
? It animates well too. He read an article on the net, and made a macro in
POV that contain some of those formulas. (search the newsgroups for "sine
water")
Maybe the water is a bit too reflective.. Or.. Maybe it's realistic enough,
but you need more skylight. The water is completely black where the rocks
are in shadow. Radiosity from the blue sky would solve that.
Lastly, you could add some interaction with the rocks, where the water
'hits' the rocks there should be some small ripples bouncing back.. To
simulate that, you could put an orthographic camera on top of it all, to
sample the rocks from above, and with a paintprogram make those bouncing
ripples (any way you can).. The result then has to be added with the ripples
you already have.
Maybe this sounds too time-consuming but it was my ideas about the water.
:o)
Regards,
Hugo
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I like it. It almost has a "Myst" feel. (I mean that in a good way.)
The rock formation on the right looks like it has a seam going up diagonally
which looks odd to me.
I might suggest a slight water line where (if the tide had retreated a bit)
would leave some slightly stained
and wet rock above the actual water line.
Nice!
"Aaron Gillies" <no### [at] spamcom> wrote in message
news:3d89422a@news.povray.org...
> Folks:
>
> I have been working the last few days on some ideas
> for Spectacular Landscapes.
>
> Here is something that I came up with. It's a work
> in progress and only the land mass and water have been
> completed.
>
> Any suggestions or critiques?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Aaron
>
> Aaron Gillies
> New York City
> x3rxes[*]yahoo.com
>
>
>
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> Are you purposefully trying to achieve that "faceted" look on the
> land mass? It looks a bit odd to me.
>
> -Kedar
Well, this is what I was able to pull out of Terragen.
I tried to get something a bit smoother by enlarging and smoothing
the bitmap in Paint Shop Pro, but that created a terracing effect that
looked even worse that what I had currently. Using the smooth
keyword created some strange dark blobs and streaking on the
height_field surface.
Aaron
Aaron Gillies
New York City
x3rxes[&]yahoo.com
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"Hugo" <hua### [at] post3teledk> wrote in message news:3d899d92$1@news.povray.org...
> The ripples are too uniform. You could add some variation by introduce some ...
Thanks! Yes, I have read Christoph's tutorial and the water uses some
of the things that he suggests. I'll try to see if I can use some of your ideas.
I have had unsatisfactory results with radiosity so far ... I just got a bluish
image that looked quite flat and unattractive. I guess I had better
hit the documentation and see if I can get some better results.
Aaron
Aaron Gillies
New York City
x3rxes[*]yahoo.com
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"Patrick Dugan" <pat### [at] usnetcomcorpcom> wrote in message
news:3d8a3068$1@news.povray.org...
> The rock formation on the right looks like it has a seam going up diagonally
> which looks odd to me.
Yeah ... It's a crappy, low-res bitmap in the height_field.
I've been trying to fix it, but everything I try makes it look worse.
> I might suggest a slight water line where (if the tide had retreated a bit)
> would leave some slightly stained
> and wet rock above the actual water line.
This is a great idea! I'm going to try that tonight.
Aaron Gillies
New York City
x3rxes[^]yahoo.com
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