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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Narnia footprints detail
Date: 8 Feb 2002 07:07:08
Message: <3c63bf6c@news.povray.org>
How does this look? Too heavy?

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Subject: Re: Narnia footprints detail
Date: 8 Feb 2002 07:24:22
Message: <qeg76ukgqkgrdpd3rnjokenggd3febifrf@4ax.com>
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:07:07 -0000, "Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote:
> How does this look? Too heavy?

Looks like she walked this way many times. Moreover I can't see any difference
in heigh of snow outside and inside footprints. Considering amount of snow on
the trees there should be deep holes in snow, IMO. Also I think this heavy
case looks like above snow while should be in hollow somehow (perhaps
additional amount of snow around case could help)

ABX


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From: Grey Knight
Subject: Re: Narnia footprints detail
Date: 8 Feb 2002 08:01:16
Message: <3C63CC13.CDD07766@namtar.qub.ac.uk>

> 
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:07:07 -0000, "Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote:
> > How does this look? Too heavy?
> 
> Looks like she walked this way many times. Moreover I can't see any difference
> in heigh of snow outside and inside footprints. Considering amount of snow on
> the trees there should be deep holes in snow, IMO. Also I think this heavy
> case looks like above snow while should be in hollow somehow (perhaps
> additional amount of snow around case could help)
> 
> ABX

I think he means having snow piled up around the wardrobe. Also I think
(this is from memory) that the wardrobe doesn't actually have a back;
the kids just went into it, pushed the coats aside and tada!
Perhaps have individual footsteps instead of a trail? Nice piled-up snow
effect though.

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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Narnia footprints detail
Date: 8 Feb 2002 08:05:04
Message: <3c63cd00$1@news.povray.org>
"Grey Knight" <s16### [at] namtarqubacuk> wrote in message
news:3C63CC13.CDD07766@namtar.qub.ac.uk...
> >
> > ABX
>
> I think he means having snow piled up around the wardrobe.

Ah! I was slightly puzzled. I haven't yet done the general snow around wardrobe.

> Also I think

<snip>

artistic licence...


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Subject: Re: Narnia footprints detail
Date: 8 Feb 2002 08:12:25
Message: <qdj76uko36iqtvu33h79g4upi6ml61fkal@4ax.com>
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:05:03 -0000, "Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote:
> Ah! I was slightly puzzled.

Unfortunatelly You can always be puzzled with my posts.
My English limits precision of statement. Since I started sending opinions
about your Narnia I just continue it for newer versions. I do it becouse I
very like progress of your image.

ABX


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From: Grey Knight
Subject: Re: Narnia footprints detail
Date: 8 Feb 2002 08:23:25
Message: <3C63D143.DEE55839@namtar.qub.ac.uk>

> 
> Unfortunatelly You can always be puzzled with my posts.

Just your name puzzles me...

> ...
> I do it becouse I very like progress of your image.

He is good, isn't he? Even considering he swiped the lamp from Gilles :)
(And do I detect a whiff of Poser? :)

> ABX

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Subject: Re: Narnia footprints detail
Date: 8 Feb 2002 08:38:16
Message: <3c63d4c8@news.povray.org>
> How does this look? Too heavy?

IMHO yes. It looks like she didn't pick up the feet from the floor while
walking (which might be fun, anyway).
I think individual steps, stamped into the snow would be much more
realistic.

Question: do you intend to add some wind effects to the snow areas? The
scene looks very clean, no wind was blowing since the last snowfall....
And don't forget the animal footprints around the trees! :-)

She will get a cold in this light clothes. Then you must give her a red
nose.

However, the snow buldge along the door looks great. You shouldn't change
that.
Very nice stuff.

regards
SY


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Narnia footprints detail
Date: 8 Feb 2002 08:43:31
Message: <3c63d603$1@news.povray.org>

news:3c63d4c8@news.povray.org...
> > How does this look? Too heavy?
>
> IMHO yes. It looks like she didn't pick up the feet from the floor while
> walking (which might be fun, anyway).
> I think individual steps, stamped into the snow would be much more
> realistic.
>

Yeh, I'm going on memory here (a long time since I've seen snow, boo-hoo). I'll
go for individual steps tonight, with just minor general mess along her path.

> Question: do you intend to add some wind effects to the snow areas? The
> scene looks very clean, no wind was blowing since the last snowfall....
> And don't forget the animal footprints around the trees! :-)

The thought had occured....

>
> She will get a cold in this light clothes. Then you must give her a red
> nose.

She has one. Honest... Actually, there's a load of furs in the wardrobe, so I
could put her in one of those. Busts the plot again, but what the hell..

>
> However, the snow buldge along the door looks great. You shouldn't change
> that.
> Very nice stuff.

Thanks - merging a hf with an iso took a little thought, but was satisfying to
achieve...


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Narnia footprints detail
Date: 8 Feb 2002 08:49:50
Message: <slrna67ls0.crk.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:43:31 -0000, Tom Melly wrote:
> Yeh, I'm going on memory here (a long time since I've seen snow, boo-hoo). I'll
> go for individual steps tonight, with just minor general mess along her path.
> 

The snow was crunching underfoot (in the story) so you'll want the footprints
to not be too deep.  Speaking as someone who has seen snow recently (though 
not all that recently, thank whoever has so far spared us from real snowfall
this winter) you should make the footprints clean and distinct, with perhaps 
a short extra stroke at the heel (where her foot would have swung down through 
the snow, since she's probably not marching) and some small-to-medium piles of 
snow in front of the toe, where the loose snow falls off the top and front 
of her shoes as she walks.

And put that crossbar on the lamppost!

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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Narnia footprints detail
Date: 8 Feb 2002 09:18:47
Message: <3c63de47$1@news.povray.org>
"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
news:slr### [at] fwicom...

<snip>

Thanks - that sounds about right. Forwarded to home for reference...

> And put that crossbar on the lamppost!

Now I'm worrying that one half of the crossbar would be missing - or would that
be Lamarkian?


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