You should not need email server or other things from your provider, just
set your newsreader to use news.povray.org as newsserver and it should
work.  No provider should have the povray newsgroup on it's newsserver.
See the postings in povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions for
details.

Furthermore it should rarely be necessary to post pictures larger than
100k.  When looking trough older posts you will recognize that most
pictures posted here are smaller.  If you want to show a higher quality
(png) pict, you might consider putting it on a website instead and posting
the link.

Nice picture BTW, i remember some similar pictures, not with fibonacci,
using megapov's eval_pigment to display pictures.  Who is Lea?

Christoph

*****

Well . . . for whatever reason, when I am in this town, using this ISP, I
can't
upload without losing the handshake or being disconnected.  Now I don't
have that problem with any other ISP (I am on the road a lot) and I don't
have it with AOL.  But I cannot figure out how to use the AOL dial-up with
newz-groups . . . they have there own list of them and it doesn't include
POV.
I have to do some sort of TCP thing and use their modems but I don't know
how to go about it.

  I understand about the 100K or so size . . . and I agree . . . stashing
them on
a web-page and providing a link would be the best way.  Just not enough time
in the day to work and play . . . and at this point, work is interferring :)

  And in this case, the pic sure does suffer . . . and I want to speak to
Sander
on this too . . . he wanted to see more spheres . . . that's fine, however,
it is
all a balancing act.  More spheres means smaller dia ones and at some point,
the visual effect is lost when the spheres are too small.  Thus . . . the
reason
for rendering at 1280 for these . . . that was the point where they still
looked
good.

  And . . . I have also imaged to other patterns . . . tightly packed hex
patterns
for example.  But the thing about fibonacci is - it seems to enhance the
natural
curves when a photo contains them.  Notice how the shape of the eyes and the
cheek and hair all seem to follow a series of spheres . . . any curved
object
can find a series of spheres that fits it and the eye is able to see that.
Hex
patterns tend to emphasize lines and diagonals and hide the natural curves
and actuall distort the eyes.  These spheres actually seem to follow them.
So, when I saw the first image that I traced . . . I was hooked . . . just
seems
the way to go when depicting nature.  I will also experiment with Tor's
anti-
blobs as soon as I can finger them out.

  Did this shot for a friend . . . this is an old pic of a girl he once met
in France.
He's very pleased with how it came out . . . I've been promising to do
something
for him with it for a long time.

  Thanks for the comments . . .

Y

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I like it: would like to see one with more detail - more beads?
Fibonacci always has its own mysterious charm...
--
Regards,  Sander
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Thanks Sander . . .

I did a lot of experimenting and it ends up being a balancing act . . .
More spheres means smaller dia ones and at some point, the visual
effect of glass beads is lost when the spheres are too small.
I played with various numbers of them and altered the dia and the
spacing until I had the desired effect.  Also depends on the photo . . .
and had to scale and translate the image to get the center at a point
where it didn't make a mess of some feature.  Also, that's the reason
for rendering at 1280 - to bring the size of the spheres up to a level
where they could still be seen as beads. Each image will vary and
it took many, many test renderings until I found this one.
  I'm pleased with it . . . will try to find a spot to stash the large one
and post a link to it . . . quite a different effect full-size.  I can see
some artifacts in this one.

  Now . . . back to thinking about stained glass and getting my .png
images to be transparent.  Anybody have any info or hints on that ?

TIA
Y

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In article <3a9590e4$1@news.povray.org>, yooper says...
<snip>
> I did a lot of experimenting and it ends up being a balancing act . . .
> More spheres means smaller dia ones and at some point, the visual
> effect of glass beads is lost when the spheres are too small.
> I played with various numbers of them and altered the dia and the
> spacing until I had the desired effect.  Also depends on the photo . . .
> and had to scale and translate the image to get the center at a point
> where it didn't make a mess of some feature.  Also, that's the reason
> for rendering at 1280 - to bring the size of the spheres up to a level
> where they could still be seen as beads. Each image will vary and
> it took many, many test renderings until I found this one.
>   I'm pleased with it . . . will try to find a spot to stash the large one
> and post a link to it . . . quite a different effect full-size.  I can see
> some artifacts in this one.
> 
<snip>
Yes I see now. There's one thing I did: changed the brightness upwards 
in Photoshop. IMHO this was an improvement: I could see more of her 
eyes, and the contrast in the darker regions was improved favourably 
too, I think.

-- 
Regards,  Sander

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Yes I see now. There's one thing I did: changed the brightness upwards
in Photoshop. IMHO this was an improvement: I could see more of her
eyes, and the contrast in the darker regions was improved favourably
too, I think.
--
Regards,  Sander
*****
One of the problems I had was getting the image map bright enough . . .
I had to bump up the global ambient settings to have it show up at all ...
esp when I tried to use MegaPOV . . . couldn't seem to tweak just the
image map.  Still trying to finger out why.
--
Y?

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"yooper" <Out### [at] huntelnet> wrote in message
news:3a956efa@news.povray.org...
>
>   Tried to use AOL to access the group but they do not see POVray.org
>   as being one of their newsgroups so . . . ???
>   If anyone knows how I can use AOL to post here, please let me know . . .
>   here or in new users if that's better.

AOL is frustrating.  You can suggest they add news.povray.org to their list
by going to the Newsgroup area but I think without enough demand for it they
probably won't.  I asked for it there long ago.  I always thought it amazing
how AOL intercepted my attempt at getting here from outside of the AOL
program, although only connected to Interent via AOL, using a newsreader;
the same error message would pop up that shows from within AOL saying these
news groups didn't exist or something.
So, I don't believe there is a way but one never knows for sure I guess.

Bob H.

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Hi. Love to see that code when you have a moment. I would like to try an
animation where an image comes in and out of clarity on a backdrop like the

happy to show you any results.
I don;t yet have any of my animation son the Web. They are rendered at 720 x
480 for projections on large screens and the Web presents too many
compromises (for now.) I think someone tried to do a compressed version
somewhere; I'll try to find the URL.
Thanks again.
Best,
D.
"Bob H." <omn### [at] msncom> wrote in message
news:3a968a40@news.povray.org...
> "yooper" <Out### [at] huntelnet> wrote in message
> news:3a956efa@news.povray.org...
> >
> >   Tried to use AOL to access the group but they do not see POVray.org
> >   as being one of their newsgroups so . . . ???
> >   If anyone knows how I can use AOL to post here, please let me know . .
.
> >   here or in new users if that's better.
>
> AOL is frustrating.  You can suggest they add news.povray.org to their
list
> by going to the Newsgroup area but I think without enough demand for it
they
> probably won't.  I asked for it there long ago.  I always thought it
amazing
> how AOL intercepted my attempt at getting here from outside of the AOL
> program, although only connected to Interent via AOL, using a newsreader;
> the same error message would pop up that shows from within AOL saying
these
> news groups didn't exist or something.
> So, I don't believe there is a way but one never knows for sure I guess.
>
> Bob H.
>
>
>

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"Bob H." wrote:

> AOL is frustrating.  You can suggest they add news.povray.org to their list
> by going to the Newsgroup area but I think without enough demand for it they
> probably won't.  I asked for it there long ago.  I always thought it amazing
> how AOL intercepted my attempt at getting here from outside of the AOL
> program, although only connected to Interent via AOL, using a newsreader;
> the same error message would pop up that shows from within AOL saying these
> news groups didn't exist or something.
> So, I don't believe there is a way but one never knows for sure I guess.

My question is why would anyone use AOL? Okay, they feed on ignorance, but then
haven't they been shut down? (Probably run out of Florida...)

--
David Fontaine  <dav### [at] faricynet>  ICQ 55354965
My raytracing gallery:  http://davidf.faricy.net/

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My question is why would anyone use AOL? Okay, they feed on ignorance, but
then
haven't they been shut down? (Probably run out of Florida...)

***
Shut down ??????  hehe . . . just the opposite I'm afraid . . . but they may
soon add POVray.org as they will soon own EVERYTHING !!!!!

Why use it ? . . . I keep it as a last resort as I am constantly on the road
and
need to be able to access the web from where ever.  If you have any tips on
finding a universal provider that will allow me to access from anywhere . .
.
please pass it on.  I hate it but . . . until i find something better . . .
--
Y

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Hi. Love to see that code when you have a moment.
***

  Will do so as soon as I clean it up a bit.  Changed it quite a bit today .
. .
shooting for making it brighter as Sander suggested. Went to specular
highlights and some metallic and came up with spheres that resemble little
pearls . . . at least the light colored ones.
  Still want to get back to trying to make them translucent . . . getting
there.

  Interesting idea . . . that fade animation . . .

  Will post it soon and link you to it.

Thanks
--
Y

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Hehe, here's a plan: use OE to post in sections. Wait for someone to complain
they can't look at it, someone else will compile and repost it for you, then you
can cancel the originals...

--
David Fontaine  <dav### [at] faricynet>  ICQ 55354965
My raytracing gallery:  http://davidf.faricy.net/

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