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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Capriccio 17
Date: 30 May 2003 16:32:54
Message: <3ed7bff6@news.povray.org>
How do people feel about this level of detail in the figure?

BTW how large would this figure actually be on the hardcopy?


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From: Gena Obukhov
Subject: Re: Capriccio 17
Date: 31 May 2003 00:47:14
Message: <3ED831F9.345AA65B@mail.com>
Jim Charter wrote:

> How do people feel about this level of detail in the figure?
>
> BTW how large would this figure actually be on the hardcopy?

It's a good level of details already. This figure will be approximately
the same size as in your image if the whole image will be 7440 in
height.

I see that you are tolerant to criticism, so let me also add some
critisism, hopefully constructive :) See attached image.

My general impression is that the whole figure is a bit extended. I
would call it El Greco style :) Your initial intention to keep head:body
proportion as 1:8 is not presented here.

1. Face size is too small. That's why it looks a bit childish to me :)
2. I think this is UV mapping artefact.
I would added a little bit in 3, 6, 8 and removed at 4.
5, 7 - These parts look a bit wrong to me.

Anyway, it'a good level of details already :)

Gena.


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From: Ib Rasmussen
Subject: Re: Capriccio 17
Date: 31 May 2003 06:03:59
Message: <3ED87DEB.60303@ibras.dk>
Jim Charter wrote:

> How do people feel about this level of detail in the figure?


The level of detail looks good to me. The figure as such may need some 
work, as Gena has pointed out. He looks a bit too youthful and relaxed 
compared to the guy in the painting.

> BTW how large would this figure actually be on the hardcopy?


Taking Zazzles colossal size as the target, which is almost 2 meters 
tall, the figure in the boat would be about 10 cm. Of course the viewing 
distance of a print that size would probably be more that the usual arms 
length.

/Ib


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Capriccio 17
Date: 31 May 2003 15:12:47
Message: <3ED8FEE1.70708@aol.com>
Gena Obukhov wrote:

> I see that you are tolerant to criticism, so let me also add some
> critisism, hopefully constructive :) See attached image.
> 
These are the first full figures I have ever attempted*, criticism is 
invaluable.
Thanks for taking the time to include the diagram, specific examples are 
much more valuable than general comments. If it's alright with you I 
would like to use the same critical process with the other figures too. 
   Generally I think my difficulty comes with the need to envision the 
figures in more detail than is given in the painting.  I am much more 
mimetic than synthetic in artistic temperament. So I can use all the 
help I can get.  The foreground family in particular is going to be huge 
in comparison to the size of foreground figures in a Canaletto for instance.

*Today my ten year old daughter just pitched her first ever inning of 
baseball.  She struck out one batter then walked in five runs.  But she
came back in the bottom of the inning and hit a homerun!


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Capriccio 17
Date: 31 May 2003 15:15:36
Message: <3ED8FF8A.5040309@aol.com>
> Taking Zazzles colossal size as the target, which is almost 2 meters 
> tall, the figure in the boat would be about 10 cm.

Jeez I'm glad I asked!  The foreground family are going to be huge then.


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From: Gena Obukhov
Subject: Re: Capriccio 17
Date: 1 Jun 2003 00:58:58
Message: <3ED98639.980889A7@mail.com>
Jim Charter wrote:

> much more valuable than general comments. If it's alright with you I
> would like to use the same critical process with the other figures too.

No problem. I'm not an expert in this field. I just made some anatomical
drawings long time ago when I attended design studio :) Some of them you
can get here:
http://propro.ru/go/gallery/html/ru1994.html

>    Generally I think my difficulty comes with the need to envision the
> figures in more detail than is given in the painting.  I am much more
> mimetic than synthetic in artistic temperament.

I think you can use any reference painting for figures. We use original
Marlow's painting just as a reference. IMHO copying it stroke by stroke
is... too boring :) So any good improvisation will be very much appreciated :)

Gena.


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From: Gena Obukhov
Subject: Capriccio 17.1
Date: 2 Jun 2003 01:20:40
Message: <3EDADCC8.82821DB8@mail.com>
Added some textures to the cathedral. The source is in p.b.s.-f.

Gena.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Capriccio 17
Date: 2 Jun 2003 10:11:18
Message: <3edb5b06@news.povray.org>
Gena Obukhov wrote:
 > I just made some anatomical
> drawings long time ago when I attended design studio :) Some of them you
> can get here:
> http://propro.ru/go/gallery/html/ru1994.html
> 
I have always admired your modelling ability, especially with figures. 
I see now it is rooted in a sure sense of form and anatomy.


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From: Mark Hanson
Subject: Re: Capriccio 17.1
Date: 2 Jun 2003 11:01:29
Message: <3edb66c9$1@news.povray.org>
Beautiful!


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From: Tom Galvin
Subject: Re: Capriccio 17.1
Date: 2 Jun 2003 15:06:10
Message: <Xns938E99952A71Etomatimporg@204.213.191.226>
Gena Obukhov <obu### [at] mailcom> wrote in news:3EDADCC8.82821DB8@mail.com:

> Added some textures to the cathedral. The source is in p.b.s.-f.
> 
> Gena.
> 
> 

I just wanted to say that this project is enjoyable even for the passive 
observer.  Keep up the great work everyone.


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