> The woman needs a little work; she looks sort of flat since the primary
> light source is inside of her.

I think she's too small.. ;o)  Seriously. Besides I'm not sure her feet
touches the hands (?) because there are no shadow.. I know there's not
supposed to be a shadow but anyway.. Besides, I think the hands are too
grey, they don't look alive - or dead. Preferribly make the hand colour more
warm.  :o)

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Hugo

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Thanks you two.

Yes, the woman needs some work. She is actually hovering,
and I have to tweak on her pose a little to make it look
more embryo-style...

As for the womans shading, thats a difficult matter. Right now I was
working with lightgroups, but I don't like that idea, because its not
like the objects should be lit differently. I'll have to experiment some
more with the subsurface-scattering...
Regarding her size, the hands should look like they were cupped around
her, but then gave way to show what he is treasuring. Needs work too.

Hand color: Definitely needs enhancement.

I'll remember these suggestions, after all, this is a WIP and it was
a first shot.

Hugo wrote:

> > The woman needs a little work; she looks sort of flat since the primary
> > light source is inside of her.
>
> I think she's too small.. ;o)  Seriously. Besides I'm not sure her feet
> touches the hands (?) because there are no shadow.. I know there's not
> supposed to be a shadow but anyway.. Besides, I think the hands are too
> grey, they don't look alive - or dead. Preferribly make the hand colour more
> warm.  :o)
>
> Regards,
> Hugo

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I think it is great. Don't mind that she's hovering.
Kinda looks like a firefly being captured. Maybe you could
give her wings?

Harold

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> This is the first scene where you can see the layout.
>
> Two male hands, treasuring something very special:
> the love of a woman (depicted by a woman with a
> glowing heart).
>
> I'm not statisfied with the image yet, this is just
> a first try at the composition to have a base for trials
> and tests.
>
> Suggestions? Comments? Criticism?
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> This is the first scene where you can see the layout.
>
> Two male hands, treasuring something very special:
> the love of a woman (depicted by a woman with a
> glowing heart).
>
> I'm not statisfied with the image yet, this is just
> a first try at the composition to have a base for trials
> and tests.
>
> Suggestions? Comments? Criticism?

I really like this idea. On my screen it looks much better, IMHO, if you
increas the contrast a bit. One suggestion about the hands. The way it looks
now it looks like the hands could be charishing the woman, but it also looks
like they are trying to catch her like an insect:-) Perhaps if you placed
them in a cupping motion under here.

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Harold Baize wrote:

> I think it is great. Don't mind that she's hovering.
> Kinda looks like a firefly being captured. Maybe you could
> give her wings?

Hm. Not really captured, but that firefly idea is what I
actually had in mind. Like you have caught one and cup it
in your hands, until you show someone...
But I don't think I'll give her wings, that'd make her a
fairy, and its about love...

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Hm. I agree. Though some have said, that it looks
like the hands are protecting, the position of the hands'
bases appear to have that catch-type of pose to them.

I'll see how I can "fix" that, but I personally don't
like the idea of two cupping hands underneath her
that much. After all, its still like he's also protecting
her a little and willing to keep her a little for himself...

Thomas Lake wrote:

> I really like this idea. On my screen it looks much better, IMHO, if you
> increas the contrast a bit. One suggestion about the hands. The way it looks
> now it looks like the hands could be charishing the woman, but it also looks
> like they are trying to catch her like an insect:-) Perhaps if you placed
> them in a cupping motion under here.

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On Fri, 17 May 2002 06:38:24 +0200, Tim Nikias <tim### [at] gmxde>
wrote:

>Two male hands, treasuring something very special:
>the love of a woman (depicted by a woman with a
>glowing heart).

How touching!

If you don't mind a bit of criticism, how about placing her heart on
the left? :)


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Hehe, its not on the left, but right in the middle.

In reality, the heart isn't so far to the left than many
people think, but in the case of this image it would also
ruin the subsurface-scattering of the woman, probably
making her left breast glow, which wouldn't look too
good, because its about the love and warmth that comes
from inside, not her breasts... ;)

Peter Popov wrote:

> On Fri, 17 May 2002 06:38:24 +0200, Tim Nikias <tim### [at] gmxde>
> wrote:
>
> >Two male hands, treasuring something very special:
> >the love of a woman (depicted by a woman with a
> >glowing heart).
>
> How touching!
>
> If you don't mind a bit of criticism, how about placing her heart on
> the left? :)
>
> Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
> Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vipbg
> TAG      e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg

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On Sun, 19 May 2002 13:44:54 +0200, Tim Nikias <tim### [at] gmxde>
wrote:

>In reality, the heart isn't so far to the left than many
>people think, 

LOL, I know, that's highschool biology. In face I've dissected one
myself back in 9th grade <evil scientist grin>

>but in the case of this image it would also
>ruin the subsurface-scattering of the woman, probably
>making her left breast glow,

Maybe just a bit to the left, as a compromise of sorts? :)

>which wouldn't look too
>good, because its about the love and warmth that comes
>from inside, not her breasts... ;)

I could guess as much... I once did a picture of a woman silhouette
made of ice, all in flames on the outside, and her heart was burning,
too. Something along the lines that the fire of love can thaw even the
coldest heart. Unfortunately, the pattern I made for the ice
accidentally resulted in a pretty accurate (for such an abstract
picture) depiction of certain parts of her body, so accurate that
everyone I showed it to asked something like 'Did you really need to
go into *that* much detail?" It turned out to be all but romantic :(

Anyway, you seem to have more luck than me :) Your images are always
very emotional. That's why I like them. You also pay attention to such
details, as your reply shows, so that they don't spoil the intent.
Really good work overall and on this image in particular.


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Thanks! If you want to, look at my latest post (will be up in a few
minutes)
and tell me what you think...

Peter Popov wrote:

> On Sun, 19 May 2002 13:44:54 +0200, Tim Nikias <tim### [at] gmxde>
> wrote:
>
> >In reality, the heart isn't so far to the left than many
> >people think,
>
> LOL, I know, that's highschool biology. In face I've dissected one
> myself back in 9th grade <evil scientist grin>
>
> >but in the case of this image it would also
> >ruin the subsurface-scattering of the woman, probably
> >making her left breast glow,
>
> Maybe just a bit to the left, as a compromise of sorts? :)
>
> >which wouldn't look too
> >good, because its about the love and warmth that comes
> >from inside, not her breasts... ;)
>
> I could guess as much... I once did a picture of a woman silhouette
> made of ice, all in flames on the outside, and her heart was burning,
> too. Something along the lines that the fire of love can thaw even the
> coldest heart. Unfortunately, the pattern I made for the ice
> accidentally resulted in a pretty accurate (for such an abstract
> picture) depiction of certain parts of her body, so accurate that
> everyone I showed it to asked something like 'Did you really need to
> go into *that* much detail?" It turned out to be all but romantic :(
>
> Anyway, you seem to have more luck than me :) Your images are always
> very emotional. That's why I like them. You also pay attention to such
> details, as your reply shows, so that they don't spoil the intent.
> Really good work overall and on this image in particular.
>
> Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
> Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vipbg
> TAG      e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg

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