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From: Shay
Subject: Re: Oranges, 2nd State (94 K )
Date: 29 Jan 2002 12:57:18
Message: <3c56e27e$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:3C5### [at] aolcom...

Very impressive. I have seen tangerines that would pop out of the skin like
that. I will have to go back and find your IRTC entry to learn how you
created the oranges.

 -Shay


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Oranges, 2nd State (94 K )
Date: 29 Jan 2002 13:34:51
Message: <3C56EDC6.A64C7775@aol.com>
Nekar Xenos wrote:

> Make the textures in the oranges semi transparent and fill with scattering
> media. problem is, it will take a lot longer to render...

Good idea, especially since traditional still life with sliced open lemons or the
like often seem to emphasize the transparency.  The texture had a slight
transparency as it stands now, .15 I think.  But it would be interesting to use
more and with scattering media.  Without a deadline looming, render times are no
obstacle.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Oranges, 2nd State (94 K )
Date: 29 Jan 2002 13:40:46
Message: <3C56EF29.F9F121CC@aol.com>
Sharp observation Tom.  I don't really know the answer, the identical texture
including finish is applied to each

Tom Melly wrote:

> "Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> news:3C5### [at] aolcom...
>
> Very nice - the teapot has some highlights, should the cups have the same since
> they look like the same material?


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Oranges, 2nd State (94 K )
Date: 29 Jan 2002 13:47:13
Message: <3C56F0AC.ED6EDA1F@aol.com>
Patrick Dugan wrote:

> I also feel the "opened" orange is a bit too cleanly opened and the contents
> (I assuming the flesh is from the opened orange) would not have fit through
> the opening made in that orange.  In fact I have never seen the contents of
> an orange come cleanly out of the interior of the skin since they are so
> well attached.

Yes the peels do need more work.  Probably there sould be thre pieces and the
edges much more ragged.  I just can't think how to do it at the moment.  Right
now. one piece is an intersection with some blobs, the other a difference with
the same set of blobs. Maybe I can get more blobs with a greater range of scale
involved.

>
>
> The glass container in the background might benefit through the use of
> photons.

Never even thought if that one!  Have never used photons.  Mmm scary.  Will look
into it.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Oranges, 2nd State (94 K )
Date: 29 Jan 2002 13:51:51
Message: <3C56F1C2.9EEA4EB9@aol.com>
Yes I was using as a general reference some clementines and also some
tangerines which both tend to be dark and reddish.  I was so excited with how
the color worked together with the texture that I allowed this stretching of
reality to creep in.  I will play with the color further. Same with the
irregularity.  I guess I wanted it to be noticable and exaggerated it some.
Thanks for your kind remarks, Jaime.

Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:

> Jim:
>
>   As valencian, I can't resist to comment on the oranges: although there
> are orange varieties with such dark-redish color, they are not really
> common. Most people would see them more convincing with a more orange color
> (but for me they are clearly what we call here "blood" oranges, "taronxa de
> sanc" in valencian).
>
>   Anyhow, I've read the technique you used for the oranges, and it is very
> good and brilliant, indeed. The skin grain is very good, but perhpas the
> big deformations are too pronounced: oranges are not spherical, but they
> tend to be more spherical.
>
> --
> Jaime Vives Piqueres
>
> La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
> http://www.ignorancia.org


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Oranges, 2nd State (94 K )
Date: 29 Jan 2002 14:30:55
Message: <slrna5dgbe.df2.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 00:27:44 -0500, Jim Charter wrote:

>  All suggestions on how to make this a better picture are 
>welcome.

Nicely set out, the orange peel looks brown to me and the segments of
orange have a solid/stale look to them.  

The bread sticks in the jar are excelent. 

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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Oranges, 2nd State (94 K )
Date: 29 Jan 2002 14:36:18
Message: <3C56FC2D.969C76FF@aol.com>
Thanks Andy, I will play with the color some more.  Since the oranges are teh
focus of attention I guess it would pay to get them right

Andrew Cocker wrote:

> Hi Jim,
>
> Textures look great 'except' that the orange peel looks brown on my monitor,
> and the orange segments are perhaps a little 'too' orange.
>
> All the best,
>
> Andy Cocker


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Oranges, 2nd State (94 K )
Date: 29 Jan 2002 14:41:55
Message: <3C56FD7D.D3C26161@aol.com>
Yes the actual examples I had at hand were clementines and the skin seems to be
attached to them quite loosely.  The technique I used is a variation on the
technique I used in my entry for the "Worship" round.

Shay wrote:

> Jim Charter <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> news:3C5### [at] aolcom...
>
> Very impressive. I have seen tangerines that would pop out of the skin like
> that. I will have to go back and find your IRTC entry to learn how you
> created the oranges.
>
>  -Shay


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From: Stephen Bell
Subject: Re: Oranges, 2nd State (94 K )
Date: 29 Jan 2002 15:07:26
Message: <3c5700fe@news.povray.org>
I think maybe you just can't see the highlight because of the viewing angle.

Stephen

"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:3C56EF29.F9F121CC@aol.com...
> Sharp observation Tom.  I don't really know the answer, the identical
texture
> including finish is applied to each
>
> Tom Melly wrote:
>
> > "Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> > news:3C5### [at] aolcom...
> >
> > Very nice - the teapot has some highlights, should the cups have the
same since
> > they look like the same material?
>


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From: Tom Bates
Subject: Re: Oranges, 2nd State (94 K )
Date: 29 Jan 2002 15:07:36
Message: <3c570108$1@news.povray.org>
Steve wrote:
> Nicely set out, the orange peel looks brown to me and the segments of
> orange have a solid/stale look to them.

Agreed.

>
> The bread sticks in the jar are excelent.

bread sticks?  I assumed they were cinnamon.

--
Tom Bates


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