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Speaking strictly as an art student, the background is taking the attention
away from all of your beautiful objects. The antialiasing creates some
strange patterns, and the bright coloring is pretty harsh. Is there any way
to scale up the pattern on the back wall so that the antialiasing wouldn't
do weird things to the lines? And maybe darken the wall or make your light
source not shine quite so directly on it. Great scene otherwise. Keep up
the good work.
Stephen
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aol com> wrote in message
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> My entry in the previous irtc round was something of a rush job, done
> over about 4 days while on vacation at the end of December. I think the
> work may have more potential than what was complete at the time of the
> deadline. So I have decided to try and complete to a second state. I
> have made some changes based on comments received in the contest in dome
> cases, and included elements that render times prevented during the
> entry period. All suggestions on how to make this a better picture are
> welcome.
> -Jim
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Yes the intention was cinnamon. I put a spiral normal on them but it
doesn't really show up.
Tom Bates wrote:
> Steve wrote:
> > Nicely set out, the orange peel looks brown to me and the segments of
> > orange have a solid/stale look to them.
>
> Agreed.
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> > The bread sticks in the jar are excelent.
>
> bread sticks? I assumed they were cinnamon.
>
> --
> Tom Bates
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I have, off and on, played with still life scenes where the vertical of the
backdrop is painted in some intense texture which challenges the sense of space,
but adds an overall visual "punch" to the image. The tradeoff is between a nice
illusion of space and the visual scintillation of the background texture/pattern
which is alligned with the picture plane and can sometimes ( especially in my
paintings ) work as a tromp l'oeil surface texture. This harkens back to
Matisse, as I am sure you know.
Your idea of darkening the backdrop, overall, is worth a try. The moire effect
is a tradeoff between realistic scale of the rattan, and the interference
patterns caused when the scale of the pattern approaches the scale of the
resolution. Maybe I will try a different pattern.
Stephen Bell wrote:
> Speaking strictly as an art student, the background is taking the attention
> away from all of your beautiful objects. The antialiasing creates some
> strange patterns, and the bright coloring is pretty harsh. Is there any way
> to scale up the pattern on the back wall so that the antialiasing wouldn't
> do weird things to the lines? And maybe darken the wall or make your light
> source not shine quite so directly on it. Great scene otherwise. Keep up
> the good work.
>
> Stephen
>
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Some beautiful texture work there! Only thing I could sugest is perhaps
using radiosity, it could help soften some of those really dark shadows.
However this might be a realism/artisic tradeoff decision on your part.
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Actually I did use radiosity, but along with an area light
Thomas Lake wrote:
> Some beautiful texture work there! Only thing I could sugest is perhaps
> using radiosity, it could help soften some of those really dark shadows.
> However this might be a realism/artisic tradeoff decision on your part.
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That's a very nice looking picture! Is that supposed to be a sugar bowl in the
middle? It -- unlike the excellent teapot -- looks too solid; I'm not sure where
the lid stops and the bowl starts.
BTW, where is the spoon? Or should there be one? Since this was originally for
the "Spirit of Asia" round, just ignore my cultural ignorance if it turns out
that isn't supposed to be a sugar bowl and no spoon is needed :)
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light_source{0,1}#macro c(J,a)sphere{0,1pigment{rgb z}scale a translate J+O}
#end#macro B(R,V,O)c(0,4)intersection{c(V,R)difference{c(-z*4x+10)c(-z*4.1x+
10)c(0<7.5,45,5>)}}#end B(12,0z*25)B(8y*4<0,12,50>) // Batronyx ^"^
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You got me! It is a spoonless ( or tongless if lumps ) sugar bowl.
MOre detail needed there too. :)
Batronyx wrote:
> That's a very nice looking picture! Is that supposed to be a sugar bowl in the
> middle? It -- unlike the excellent teapot -- looks too solid; I'm not sure where
> the lid stops and the bowl starts.
>
> BTW, where is the spoon? Or should there be one? Since this was originally for
> the "Spirit of Asia" round, just ignore my cultural ignorance if it turns out
> that isn't supposed to be a sugar bowl and no spoon is needed :)
>
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> light_source{0,1}#macro c(J,a)sphere{0,1pigment{rgb z}scale a translate J+O}
> #end#macro B(R,V,O)c(0,4)intersection{c(V,R)difference{c(-z*4x+10)c(-z*4.1x+
> 10)c(0<7.5,45,5>)}}#end B(12,0z*25)B(8y*4<0,12,50>) // Batronyx ^"^
>
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"Stephen Bell" <ste### [at] yahoo com> wrote in message
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> I think maybe you just can't see the highlight because of the viewing angle.
I considered that, but IMHO no. Take a look at the highlight on the unpeeled
orange on the right - the highlight on the cups should be in roughly the same
place. Also, and this is fairly subjective, there are other aspects to the
finish on the teapot that seem to be missing from the cups. The teapot has some
reflectivity and is generally glossier.
I'd double-check your code - it looks like the finish has been dropped from the
cups....
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If you look very closely at the white part of the cups, I do believe you can
see the hightlights there.
Or maybe I'm just seeing things.
-tgq
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I think yours is the best explanation, else it is really a puzzle. The pigment
and finish are wrappered under the same texture name and applied to all three
objects. I also switched the locations of one of the cups and one of the
oranges and sure enough, the orange shows a highlight where the cup wouldn't and
the cup still won't show a highlight except the thread along the very top. Hope
soon to post a new version including most of the suggestions posted here. Will
be my first time with a photon map. Whoohoo!
TinCanMan wrote:
> If you look very closely at the white part of the cups, I do believe you can
> see the hightlights there.
> Or maybe I'm just seeing things.
>
> -tgq
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