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Yes I was using as a general reference some clementines and also some
tangerines which both tend to be dark and reddish. I was so excited with how
the color worked together with the texture that I allowed this stretching of
reality to creep in. I will play with the color further. Same with the
irregularity. I guess I wanted it to be noticable and exaggerated it some.
Thanks for your kind remarks, Jaime.
Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> Jim:
>
> As valencian, I can't resist to comment on the oranges: although there
> are orange varieties with such dark-redish color, they are not really
> common. Most people would see them more convincing with a more orange color
> (but for me they are clearly what we call here "blood" oranges, "taronxa de
> sanc" in valencian).
>
> Anyhow, I've read the technique you used for the oranges, and it is very
> good and brilliant, indeed. The skin grain is very good, but perhpas the
> big deformations are too pronounced: oranges are not spherical, but they
> tend to be more spherical.
>
> --
> Jaime Vives Piqueres
>
> La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
> http://www.ignorancia.org
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 00:27:44 -0500, Jim Charter wrote:
> All suggestions on how to make this a better picture are
>welcome.
Nicely set out, the orange peel looks brown to me and the segments of
orange have a solid/stale look to them.
The bread sticks in the jar are excelent.
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Thanks Andy, I will play with the color some more. Since the oranges are teh
focus of attention I guess it would pay to get them right
Andrew Cocker wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> Textures look great 'except' that the orange peel looks brown on my monitor,
> and the orange segments are perhaps a little 'too' orange.
>
> All the best,
>
> Andy Cocker
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Yes the actual examples I had at hand were clementines and the skin seems to be
attached to them quite loosely. The technique I used is a variation on the
technique I used in my entry for the "Worship" round.
Shay wrote:
> Jim Charter <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> news:3C5### [at] aolcom...
>
> Very impressive. I have seen tangerines that would pop out of the skin like
> that. I will have to go back and find your IRTC entry to learn how you
> created the oranges.
>
> -Shay
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I think maybe you just can't see the highlight because of the viewing angle.
Stephen
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:3C56EF29.F9F121CC@aol.com...
> Sharp observation Tom. I don't really know the answer, the identical
texture
> including finish is applied to each
>
> Tom Melly wrote:
>
> > "Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> > news:3C5### [at] aolcom...
> >
> > Very nice - the teapot has some highlights, should the cups have the
same since
> > they look like the same material?
>
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Steve wrote:
> Nicely set out, the orange peel looks brown to me and the segments of
> orange have a solid/stale look to them.
Agreed.
>
> The bread sticks in the jar are excelent.
bread sticks? I assumed they were cinnamon.
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Speaking strictly as an art student, the background is taking the attention
away from all of your beautiful objects. The antialiasing creates some
strange patterns, and the bright coloring is pretty harsh. Is there any way
to scale up the pattern on the back wall so that the antialiasing wouldn't
do weird things to the lines? And maybe darken the wall or make your light
source not shine quite so directly on it. Great scene otherwise. Keep up
the good work.
Stephen
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:3C5### [at] aolcom...
> My entry in the previous irtc round was something of a rush job, done
> over about 4 days while on vacation at the end of December. I think the
> work may have more potential than what was complete at the time of the
> deadline. So I have decided to try and complete to a second state. I
> have made some changes based on comments received in the contest in dome
> cases, and included elements that render times prevented during the
> entry period. All suggestions on how to make this a better picture are
> welcome.
> -Jim
>
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Yes the intention was cinnamon. I put a spiral normal on them but it
doesn't really show up.
Tom Bates wrote:
> Steve wrote:
> > Nicely set out, the orange peel looks brown to me and the segments of
> > orange have a solid/stale look to them.
>
> Agreed.
>
> >
> > The bread sticks in the jar are excelent.
>
> bread sticks? I assumed they were cinnamon.
>
> --
> Tom Bates
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I have, off and on, played with still life scenes where the vertical of the
backdrop is painted in some intense texture which challenges the sense of space,
but adds an overall visual "punch" to the image. The tradeoff is between a nice
illusion of space and the visual scintillation of the background texture/pattern
which is alligned with the picture plane and can sometimes ( especially in my
paintings ) work as a tromp l'oeil surface texture. This harkens back to
Matisse, as I am sure you know.
Your idea of darkening the backdrop, overall, is worth a try. The moire effect
is a tradeoff between realistic scale of the rattan, and the interference
patterns caused when the scale of the pattern approaches the scale of the
resolution. Maybe I will try a different pattern.
Stephen Bell wrote:
> Speaking strictly as an art student, the background is taking the attention
> away from all of your beautiful objects. The antialiasing creates some
> strange patterns, and the bright coloring is pretty harsh. Is there any way
> to scale up the pattern on the back wall so that the antialiasing wouldn't
> do weird things to the lines? And maybe darken the wall or make your light
> source not shine quite so directly on it. Great scene otherwise. Keep up
> the good work.
>
> Stephen
>
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Some beautiful texture work there! Only thing I could sugest is perhaps
using radiosity, it could help soften some of those really dark shadows.
However this might be a realism/artisic tradeoff decision on your part.
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