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From: H E  Day
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 13:50:26
Message: <3A785E6A.6FD16110@heday.freeservers.com>
http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/saboexp.jpg

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H.E. Day
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From: Chris S 
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 13:51:29
Message: <3a785eb1$1@news.povray.org>
Quite stunning...even more so then some of your past work.  As others have
mentioned, you've definitely outdone yourself...

Alright...enough mindless praise;)

The ships and the meteorites are inarguably the most finely crafted (I don't
know which I like better).  Extra points for the fiery explosion trails.  My
only significant criticism would be the crand of the rings which look overly
"rough".  The sharp distinction between some of the rings looks artificial
IMHO.

Oddly enough this hasn't depressed me but instead inspired.  I see this and
realize what can truly be accomplished with this humble little raytracer.

Overall, this has been a pleasant surprise for an otherwise mundane
Wednesday.  I was wondering where you were going with the hull you posted
last week.

Now I dare ask...the lensflare and nebulae, yours or an include?

Take care,
-Chris-

H.E. Day <The### [at] hedayfreeserverscom> wrote in message
news:3A77869F.E91639EE@heday.freeservers.com...
> Here it is, the most recent masterpiece....or not.
> http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/sabotage.jpg (633K)
> The original was rendered at 2400x1200 and took 7h32m to render on a
> P200
> 100% POVRay!!
>
> Comments?
>
> H.E. Day
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From: Richard Dault
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 13:59:17
Message: <3a786085$1@news.povray.org>
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From: Sander Stols
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 14:53:04
Message: <MPG.14e1f3f824b853fd9896dc@NEWS.POVRAY.ORG>
In article <3A77869F.E91639EE@heday.freeservers.com>, 
The### [at] hedayfreeserverscom says...
> Here it is, the most recent masterpiece....or not.
> http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/sabotage.jpg (633K)
> The original was rendered at 2400x1200 and took 7h32m to render on a
> P200
> 100% POVRay!!
> 
> Comments?
> 
> H.E. Day
> <><

This incredible scene makes me feel small in many ways! I also would 
like to see more details of the vessel, its structure etc.

What is the reason that the color/contrast boundaries look so sharp? It 
would be nice to have an idea what your rendering conditions were. Did 
you really not use AA?

It's great!!
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Regards,  Sander


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From: Paul Jones
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 16:15:32
Message: <3A788089.59014D26@psu.edu>
I beg you, could you pleeeease write a tutorial on how you create these
wonderful ships????

-paul

"H.E. Day" wrote:
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> http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/saboexp.jpg
> 
> --
> H.E. Day
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The Pennslyvania State University

pdj### [at] psuedu
http://research.chem.psu.edu/glassgrp/paul

       C            The way is near, but men
     // \           seek it afar. It is in the
    N    N          easy things, but men seek it
    |    ||         in the difficult things.
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From: Abe
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 16:23:56
Message: <3A788257.B33C3FE6@taconic.net>
Neat pic. As usual I get the sense that it is either cover art or
illustration for a sci fi story. I like the "feel".

One comment, besides the razor sharp edges on the rings: when I first
viewed the pic at full resolution on my 800x600 monitor, I saw it in
vignettes, the first of course being the upper left corner. At the time
I missed the lens flare ring (seeing only the glare), but on
subsequently shrinking the image to fit my screen and seeing the flare
ring I lost some sense of the vast emptiness of space. In other words,
the ring acted as a space filling element (like the planet and the
rings). I appreciated the sense of vacuum which I got in my first
impression. Just a thought.

"H.E. Day" wrote:
> 
> Here it is, the most recent masterpiece....or not.
> http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/sabotage.jpg (633K)
> The original was rendered at 2400x1200 and took 7h32m to render on a
> P200
> 100% POVRay!!
> 
> Comments?
> 
> H.E. Day
> <><


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From: H E  Day
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 17:25:56
Message: <3A7890EA.39F7A0D@heday.freeservers.com>
> Alright...enough mindless praise;)

:)

> The ships and the meteorites are inarguably the most finely crafted (I don't
> know which I like better).  Extra points for the fiery explosion trails.  My
> only significant criticism would be the crand of the rings which look overly
> "rough".  The sharp distinction between some of the rings looks artificial
> IMHO.

The rings are quite a distance from the ships.  Upwards of 15,000 units.

> Oddly enough this hasn't depressed me but instead inspired.  I see this and
> realize what can truly be accomplished with this humble little raytracer.

Amen.

> Now I dare ask...the lensflare and nebulae, yours or an include?

Lensflare- custom NKFlare .flr file.
Nebula- mine.  Nor Galaxy.inc involved. :)

H.E. Day
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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 17:30:48
Message: <3A789200.5AED1FE4@faricy.net>
Christoph Hormann wrote:

> - the explosion IMO is not very realistic for space.  It looks more like
> exploding gasoline.  Anyway it looks quite impressive.

I didn't think so either, but I agree that stylistically it's fine. Fits the
crisp look and coloration of the rest of the scene. Has kind of an acrylic
look.

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David Fontaine  <dav### [at] faricynet>  ICQ 55354965
My raytracing gallery:  http://davidf.faricy.net/


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From: H E  Day
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 17:31:22
Message: <3A789230.DCF1EE17@heday.freeservers.com>
> This incredible scene makes me feel small in many ways! I also would
> like to see more details of the vessel, its structure etc.

I'll post more pictures soon. In the mean time, here's a link you can check
out:
 http://www.scifi-art.com/forums/Forum5/HTML/000380.html


> What is the reason that the color/contrast boundaries look so sharp? It
> would be nice to have an idea what your rendering conditions were. Did
> you really not use AA?

No, the aa was set to .3  I sharpened the image in Photoshop to get that
crisp feeling.  This is after I sized it down from 2400x1200

> It's great!!

Thanks!

H.E. Day
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From: H E  Day
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 17:36:21
Message: <3A789359.E5F71BED@heday.freeservers.com>
>         Looks pretty excellent!  I really love your sense of design.  I just
> checked out your website and was reminded of all the cool stuff I've
> seen coming from your direction.

Graci!

>         -- I loved the planetary rings

The only one. :(

>         -- I loved the emense sense of scale that slight
>            curvature of the planet and the rings bring out

To think that came naturally....

       -- *I* like the explosion, but it might work just as well if it were a
bit more transparent.

That'd be difficult. You see, the explosions are isosurfaces, so they are by
default, solid.

>         -- This space scene should probably be a little more stark.
>            I mean, the shadows should look almost pitch black, cause
>            almost all the light from the scene is coming from the
>            star with just a little fill coming from the planet and
>            the rings.  This is most noticeable in the giant asteroid
>            in the bottom of the frame.

Hmmm. on my monitor, they *are* stark. :) Maybe you might want to change your
gamma a tad...

>         -- I think the gas giant could be made much cooler by using
>            layered textures (one cloud color per layer) or by
>            actually making several layers of spheres with different
>            colored clouds on them so that they could cast shadows
>            on each other.

Render time wins out on this one, buddy. I barely have enough patience to finish
this render. :)


>         -- Finally, (whew!) I think the asteroid shape looks a little
>            funny.  It would probably benefit a lot by adding craters
>            of some kind.  If fact, maybe the majority of the shape
>            should be like a potato that someone has attacked with
>           a melon baller!!

I'll try it!!

Thanks again!

H.E. Day
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