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From: Thomas Charron
Subject: Chain Mail WIP..
Date: 25 Jan 2001 17:07:35
Message: <3a70a3a7@news.povray.org>
Whatcha think?  This is *VERY* preliminary work.  I may turn the chains
into studded chain instead of just cut wire chain in the future.  This is
just a quick render to see what it'd look like draped over a standard white
pigment cylinder..  Any ideas to make the chain look more realistic?


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From: Andy Cocker
Subject: Re: Chain Mail WIP..
Date: 25 Jan 2001 17:28:14
Message: <3a70a87e@news.povray.org>
"Thomas Charron" <tch### [at] ductapenet> wrote in message
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>     Whatcha think?  This is *VERY* preliminary work.  I may turn the
chains
> into studded chain instead of just cut wire chain in the future.  This is
> just a quick render to see what it'd look like draped over a standard
white
> pigment cylinder..  Any ideas to make the chain look more realistic?

It's great. Is the chain using any kind of collision detection? Would it
adapt itself to any surface I mean?



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From: Thomas Charron
Subject: Re: Chain Mail WIP..
Date: 25 Jan 2001 18:01:59
Message: <3a70b067$1@news.povray.org>
"Andy Cocker" <big### [at] mariner9fsnetcouk> wrote in message
news:3a70a87e@news.povray.org...
> "Thomas Charron" <tch### [at] ductapenet> wrote in message
> news:3a70a3a7@news.povray.org...
> >     Whatcha think?  This is *VERY* preliminary work.  I may turn the
> chains
> > into studded chain instead of just cut wire chain in the future.  This
is
> > just a quick render to see what it'd look like draped over a standard
> white
> > pigment cylinder..  Any ideas to make the chain look more realistic?
> It's great. Is the chain using any kind of collision detection? Would it
> adapt itself to any surface I mean?

    I wish..  :-)  Theres a reason why it's laying on a cylinder, ya know..
:-)

    Basically, I can generate flat peices,including angular ones, or ones
that 'revolve' themselves around a given point in space.  In this case, they
are actually two peices.  One revolving 1/4 around the origin (center of the
cylinder), and another 1/4 around <12, 0, 0>.  If I only had the time to
work on things such as collision detection.  :-(  It'd be sweet if I could
take a sheet and 'drape' it over things.  Then I wouldn't spend so much time
thinking about getting the placement just right for my IRTC image..  :-)
I'm attempting to do a Paladin from the Crusades..


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From: Dan Johnson
Subject: Re: Chain Mail WIP..
Date: 26 Jan 2001 01:59:29
Message: <3A7121B4.8B596ED9@hotmail.com>
Thomas Charron wrote:

> "Andy Cocker" <big### [at] mariner9fsnetcouk> wrote in message
> news:3a70a87e@news.povray.org...
> > "Thomas Charron" <tch### [at] ductapenet> wrote in message
> > news:3a70a3a7@news.povray.org...
> > >     Whatcha think?  This is *VERY* preliminary work.  I may turn the
> > chains
> > > into studded chain instead of just cut wire chain in the future.  This
> is
> > > just a quick render to see what it'd look like draped over a standard
> > white
> > > pigment cylinder..  Any ideas to make the chain look more realistic?
> > It's great. Is the chain using any kind of collision detection? Would it
> > adapt itself to any surface I mean?
>
>     I wish..  :-)  Theres a reason why it's laying on a cylinder, ya know..
> :-)
>
>     Basically, I can generate flat peices,including angular ones, or ones
> that 'revolve' themselves around a given point in space.  In this case, they
> are actually two peices.  One revolving 1/4 around the origin (center of the
> cylinder), and another 1/4 around <12, 0, 0>.  If I only had the time to
> work on things such as collision detection.  :-(  It'd be sweet if I could
> take a sheet and 'drape' it over things.  Then I wouldn't spend so much time
> thinking about getting the placement just right for my IRTC image..  :-)
> I'm attempting to do a Paladin from the Crusades..

I remember three kinds of chain mail.  Yours is the medium flexible version.
There is another kind that is stronger.  I used to ride the bus to school every
day with a guy who was making a glove.  It was taking him a very long time.

Dan Johnson


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From: Thomas Charron
Subject: Re: Chain Mail WIP..
Date: 26 Jan 2001 10:39:45
Message: <3a719a41@news.povray.org>
> >     Basically, I can generate flat peices,including angular ones, or
ones
> > that 'revolve' themselves around a given point in space.  In this case,
they
> > are actually two peices.  One revolving 1/4 around the origin (center of
the
> > cylinder), and another 1/4 around <12, 0, 0>.  If I only had the time to
> > work on things such as collision detection.  :-(  It'd be sweet if I
could
> > take a sheet and 'drape' it over things.  Then I wouldn't spend so much
time
> > thinking about getting the placement just right for my IRTC image..  :-)
> > I'm attempting to do a Paladin from the Crusades..
> I remember three kinds of chain mail.  Yours is the medium flexible
version.
> There is another kind that is stronger.  I used to ride the bus to school
every
> day with a guy who was making a glove.  It was taking him a very long
time.

    Yep.  There are several kinds of 'weaves' you can use..  The one shown
is a 4 in 1 weave.  I also have a mess around version that does a 6 in 1 and
8 in 1 weave.  I'm familiar with the weaves, and even messed around with
making my own for a bit, but never finished it.  To boring, like Knitting,
but with metal.. :-)


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Chain Mail WIP..
Date: 26 Jan 2001 18:06:31
Message: <bea27tgkjb4dv4ub9a9ll3fn3nqdhll7d5@4ax.com>
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:07:53 -0500, "Thomas Charron"
<tch### [at] ductapenet> wrote:

>    Whatcha think?  This is *VERY* preliminary work.  

Isn't this a ring mail?


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From: Dan Johnson
Subject: Re: Chain Mail WIP..
Date: 27 Jan 2001 04:21:28
Message: <3A72947B.B9C831D5@hotmail.com>
>     Yep.  There are several kinds of 'weaves' you can use..  The one shown
> is a 4 in 1 weave.  I also have a mess around version that does a 6 in 1 and
> 8 in 1 weave.  I'm familiar with the weaves, and even messed around with
> making my own for a bit, but never finished it.  To boring, like Knitting,
> but with metal.. :-)

Do you have examples of other weaves?

Dan Johnson


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Chain Mail WIP..
Date: 28 Jan 2001 10:33:39
Message: <3a743bd2@news.povray.org>
What does "WIP" mean? I have been wondering for several months now.
I couldn't resist anymore but ask.

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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Chain Mail WIP..
Date: 28 Jan 2001 10:38:59
Message: <3A743C86.101489DE@videotron.ca>
Warp wrote:
> 
>   What does "WIP" mean? I have been wondering for several months now.
> I couldn't resist anymore but ask.

Work In Progress.

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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Re: Chain Mail WIP..
Date: 28 Jan 2001 17:31:13
Message: <MPG.14de9cd736f7392f989879@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:07:53 -0500, Thomas Charron wrote...
>     Whatcha think?  This is *VERY* preliminary work.  I may turn the chains
> into studded chain instead of just cut wire chain in the future.  This is
> just a quick render to see what it'd look like draped over a standard white
> pigment cylinder..  Any ideas to make the chain look more realistic?

Pretty good for standard 4:1 mesh.  For a real headache, try 6:1...

Not having read any other replies yet, I'd guess that you articulated the 
chain on a row by row basis?  This would mean that draping it over a 
sphere would be a) a pain in the gluteus maximus, or b) effectively 
impossible :)

Bye for now,
     Jamie.


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