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From: Mike Williams
Subject: Re: Trip-let (8k)
Date: 15 Aug 2000 03:26:32
Message: <75LVDHAy2Lm5EwYY@econym.demon.co.uk>
Wasn't it Kevin Jackson-Mead who wrote:
>Greetings everyone.
>
>I am new to POV and to raytracing, and it's been a while since I've
>posted anything to a newsgroup (and first time posting using Netscape's
>news thing), so please excuse any screw-ups.  Attached is a little
>object I made that was inspired by the cover art of Douglas R.
>Hofstadter's book "Godel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid".  As
>far as I know, he invented them for his book (according to what he says
>about it, anyway).  He took a piece of wood and sawed the appropriate
>bits.  Neat idea and a wonderful book, if anyone is looking for
>something to read.
>
>Anyway, I was thinking of trying to come up with a macro to make
>trip-lets out of any three letters, and I was wondering if something
>like that already exists.  I imagine not, but I thought I'd ask first.
>I doubt it would be a very useful macro, but I'm planning on using it to
>teach myself how to do them.
>
>Comments and suggestions are welcome and appreciated (otherwise I
>wouldn't be posting, I guess.)
>
>Kevin Jackson-Mead
>
>[ A MIME image / png part was included here. ]
>

Do you mean to do something like

intersection {
  text { ttf "faktos.ttf", "G", 2, 0 translate <-0.25,-0.36,-1>
         scale <4,2.4,1>}
  text { ttf "faktos.ttf", "E", 2, 0 translate <-0.25,-0.36,-1>
         scale <4,2.4,1> rotate y*90}
  text { ttf "faktos.ttf", "B", 2, 0 translate <-0.25,-0.36,-1>
         scale <4,2.4,1> rotate x*90}
  pigment {rgb 1}
}

(where the translations and scales would be adjusted for the particular
font, so that the letters just about fit within box {-1,1}), or are you
building the thing from CSG?

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Mike Williams
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From: Anton Sherwood
Subject: Re: Trip-let (8k)
Date: 15 Aug 2000 04:25:30
Message: <39990015.D28F2B31@pobox.com>
> > Here is something similar that I did a few years ago .... 
> > Intersection of two text objects.

Ken wrote:
> I remember this one but I seem to recall a different color scheme.

How gratifying to be remembered.

I posted an early version (in a different typeface and, iirc, with a
much lower viewpoint), in which each of the component text objects had a
solid color, so the intersection had just two colors: green and orange? 
Also tried wood and stone; can't recall whether I posted any of those.

In the final version(s), all the light is reflections of the sky. 
(Since it's for a scifi club, I put a yellow sun and a red sun on
opposite horizons.)

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From: Kevin Jackson-Mead
Subject: Re: Trip-let (8k)
Date: 15 Aug 2000 07:30:28
Message: <39992974.99E4A2E7@mindspring.com>
Mike Williams wrote:

> <snip my stuff>
>
> Do you mean to do something like
>
> intersection {
>   text { ttf "faktos.ttf", "G", 2, 0 translate <-0.25,-0.36,-1>
>          scale <4,2.4,1>}
>   text { ttf "faktos.ttf", "E", 2, 0 translate <-0.25,-0.36,-1>
>          scale <4,2.4,1> rotate y*90}
>   text { ttf "faktos.ttf", "B", 2, 0 translate <-0.25,-0.36,-1>
>          scale <4,2.4,1> rotate x*90}
>   pigment {rgb 1}
> }
>
> (where the translations and scales would be adjusted for the particular
> font, so that the letters just about fit within box {-1,1}), or are you
> building the thing from CSG?
>

I didn't even think of using text objects for it.  That's kind of neat.
However, I did it basically how Hofstadter did it, starting with a cube and
removing bits from it.

Kevin Jackson-Mead

>
> --
> Mike Williams
> Gentleman of Leisure


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From: Kevin Jackson-Mead
Subject: Re: Trip-let (8k)
Date: 15 Aug 2000 07:37:55
Message: <39992B1D.A2278A95@mindspring.com>
Here's the scene, a little bigger, with the changes you suggested.  I also took
out the other light source, so that the spotlights are the only light.  I really
like this one.  Thanks for the suggestion, David.

Kevin Jackson-Mead

David Fontaine wrote:

> Kevin Jackson-Mead wrote:
>
> > Greetings everyone.
> >
> > I am new to POV and to raytracing, and it's been a while since I've
> > posted anything to a newsgroup (and first time posting using Netscape's
> > news thing), so please excuse any screw-ups.  Attached is a little
> > object I made that was inspired by the cover art of Douglas R.
> > Hofstadter's book "Godel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid".  As
> > far as I know, he invented them for his book (according to what he says
> > about it, anyway).  He took a piece of wood and sawed the appropriate
> > bits.  Neat idea and a wonderful book, if anyone is looking for
> > something to read.
>
> Welcome! As has been mentioned, a while back a lot of people were making
> these. They're easy to make in POV, but look fairly hard to make in real
> life...
>
> > Anyway, I was thinking of trying to come up with a macro to make
> > trip-lets out of any three letters, and I was wondering if something
> > like that already exists.  I imagine not, but I thought I'd ask first.
> > I doubt it would be a very useful macro, but I'm planning on using it to
> > teach myself how to do them.
>
> The experience is valuable rather or not the macro is. If you want to learn
> some advanced POVing, just sit on your ass for twelve hours a day coding
> scenes and ignore any RL annoyances...
>
> > Comments and suggestions are welcome and appreciated (otherwise I
> > wouldn't be posting, I guess.)
>
> Hmm... the way the box is lighted, it's hard to tell where edges are. How
> 'bout instead of a red box and colored planes, a white box and white planes
> with colored lights? That way the different faces of the box will be diferent
> colors.
>
> --
> David Fontaine     <dav### [at] faricynet>     ICQ 55354965
> Please visit my website: http://www.faricy.net/~davidf/


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Trip-let (8k)
Date: 15 Aug 2000 14:28:14
Message: <slrn8pinfv.gej.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
These changes do make a big difference.  It's improved by about
100% by this change alone. 

Nice work.

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Trip-let (8k)
Date: 15 Aug 2000 15:27:08
Message: <39999782.3DD9BE0C@faricy.net>
Mike Williams wrote:

> Do you mean to do something like
>
> intersection {
>   text { ttf "faktos.ttf", "G", 2, 0 translate <-0.25,-0.36,-1>
>          scale <4,2.4,1>}
>   text { ttf "faktos.ttf", "E", 2, 0 translate <-0.25,-0.36,-1>
>          scale <4,2.4,1> rotate y*90}
>   text { ttf "faktos.ttf", "B", 2, 0 translate <-0.25,-0.36,-1>
>          scale <4,2.4,1> rotate x*90}
>   pigment {rgb 1}
> }

I made this exact setup a while back using the MegaPOV min_extent and
max_extent to scale the letters properly...

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David Fontaine     <dav### [at] faricynet>     ICQ 55354965
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From: ryan constantine
Subject: Re: Trip-let (8k)
Date: 15 Aug 2000 18:27:47
Message: <3999C3D1.71A6E6B3@yahoo.com>
why expire anything?  why not put up a collection plate to buy like a
40GB hard drive or something?  i hope that in the manual trimming
responses were trimmed before images!

Ken wrote:
> 
> ryan constantine wrote:
> >
> > these newsgroups are archived here so i'm not sure i know what you
> > mean.  the only group that has it's posts deleted as far as i know is
> > the off topic group.
> 
> This group has been manualy trimmed a couple of times becasue of the
> resources it was taking up. The binaries.animations group has likewise
> suffered. The News admin will eventually have to set up these two groups
> with a 1 year auto expire but for the time being is doing so only when
> server resources are strained.
> 
> To the best of my knowledge there is no publically available archive
> of these groups available. I "think" news admin has a back up of the
> server somewhere but I don't know for sure.
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler - ken### [at] tagpovrayorg


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Trip-let (8k)
Date: 15 Aug 2000 20:56:49
Message: <slrn8pjor5.hpi.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:27:29 -0700, ryan constantine wrote:
>why expire anything?  why not put up a collection plate to buy like a
>40GB hard drive or something?  i hope that in the manual trimming
>responses were trimmed before images!
>

The responses take up very little space campared to images, it makes it 
more consistant and understandable if posts are trimmed by date.  

From what I've heard/read the sales of the IRTC CDrom support the maintenance
and and H/W of this server, and if all the regular visitors bought the CD
then there wouldn't be a space issue. 

I'm not speaking for the POV team or the IRTC here, just repeating what I've
read.


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From: ryan constantine
Subject: Re: Trip-let (8k)
Date: 16 Aug 2000 05:22:37
Message: <399A5D4B.729FED4F@yahoo.com>
although posts like
"awesome image dude!"
are pretty pointless when left behind after the original image has been
deleted.  or any coment for that matter.

i was under the impression that the server had been donated.  maybe not
huh?  so how many IRTC cdroms are sold?  and what are the operating
costs it pays for?  i thought all of pov was simply enthusiast
contribution of time and so forth.

Steve wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:27:29 -0700, ryan constantine wrote:
> >why expire anything?  why not put up a collection plate to buy like a
> >40GB hard drive or something?  i hope that in the manual trimming
> >responses were trimmed before images!
> >
> 
> The responses take up very little space campared to images, it makes it
> more consistant and understandable if posts are trimmed by date.
> 
> From what I've heard/read the sales of the IRTC CDrom support the maintenance
> and and H/W of this server, and if all the regular visitors bought the CD
> then there wouldn't be a space issue.
> 
> I'm not speaking for the POV team or the IRTC here, just repeating what I've
> read.
> 
> --
> Cheers
> Steve              email mailto:ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet
> 
> %HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps.
> 
> web http://www.zeropps.uklinux.net/
> 
> or  http://start.at/zero-pps
> 
>   1:12am  up 31 days, 23:39,  2 users,  load average: 1.63, 1.61, 1.46


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From: Richard Morton
Subject: Re: Trip-let (8k)
Date: 16 Aug 2000 07:12:39
Message: <399ACC15.DF167E78@hotmail.removethisbit.com>
This reminds me of a catalogue that I got from a guy selling wooden puzzles in
Covent Garden (don't know if he is still there, this is probably 10-12 years
ago). He could make a cube puzzle from any three letters so that each letter
could be extracted through the side. Slightly more imaginative than the
personalised golfballs you sometimes see advertised.


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