Back with it again, this time it's got a picture of itself over the mantel.
Although radiosity messes up the fire and log textures it makes the room look
so much better I can't do without it.  Wonder if I could manage to cut&paste
in a non-radiosity fire/logs.  I might do that.
You'll notice the fire still looks fairly jagged-point like, as someone has
noticed before.  I want to get a more rolling flame look to it, maybe I can
stumble upon that later.  Enjoy the warmth in the meantime.
Oh, btw, I came across a VRML file of a fireplace at a builders/sculptors
webpage.  Thought maybe I had seen it before but I couldn't get the *.wrl file
to open here.  For the curious: http://www.stonecarver.com/VRML/fireplace.wrl

Bob
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On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:49:53 -0500 "Bob Hughes"
<per### [at] aolcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote:

>Back with it again, this time it's got a picture of itself over the mantel.

  Interesting, Bob, but I can no longer see the radiosity interaction of
the objects on the mantel and the wall. Bob, is it just me or is your
image a bit on the dark side? Maybe our gammas are set differently but I
lose a lot of detail on the right side of the picture.

>Although radiosity messes up the fire and log textures it makes the room look
>so much better I can't do without it.

  I don't know that it messes it up - I think it just masks all the work
you put into the textures because of the interaction of light on them.
I'd keep the radiosity.

>You'll notice the fire still looks fairly jagged-point like, as someone has
>noticed before.  I want to get a more rolling flame look to it, maybe I can
>stumble upon that later.

  Hmm, okay... it looks fine to me. Fireplace fire is such a dynamic
thing, always changing. Not static like a candle flame. Also depends on
whether the fire has just been started or the logs are *really* up in
smoke from burning for an hour or more. If you think it needs
improvement then I'm curious to see what you come up with.

  Ever consider adding fireplace tools in a stand?

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Alan Kong wrote:
> Bob, is it just me or is your
> image a bit on the dark side? Maybe our gammas are set differently but I
> lose a lot of detail on the right side of the picture.

I'm viewing it on a calibrated gamma 2.2 monitor and it looks just
right.
Maybe right adjustments will bring light
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~kkivisal/adjust.gif

K.K.

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Fire and wood look really great now, only the logs seem built up by some very
painstaking person... ;-)

You changed the bricks inside the fireplace: it gives much more depth, but IMO
the corners of the single bricks are a bit to sharp now.

And: Your "image in the image" should have real recursion :-)

Christoph

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Now that's fire! Way to go, Bob!

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"Kari Kivisalo" <kar### [at] kivisalonet> wrote in message
news:3959CEFF.5280FC78@kivisalo.net...
| Alan Kong wrote:
| > Bob, is it just me or is your
| > image a bit on the dark side? Maybe our gammas are set differently but I
| > lose a lot of detail on the right side of the picture.
|
| I'm viewing it on a calibrated gamma 2.2 monitor and it looks just
| right.
| Maybe right adjustments will bring light
| http://hammer.prohosting.com/~kkivisal/adjust.gif

That crossed my mind more than once while making such a scene with bright
flames and darker surroundings.
It's just a dark scene to start with, being lit only by a very dim light
intended to be something like twilight shining in through a window or
something and the rest is only firelight which didn't brighten things up much.
The "room" is a closed box of approx. 30W by 10H by 18.5D units and fireplace
is 6W by 4H by 5D.
I might be forced to quit the fire changes (getting nowhere but worse) and
begin on the other parts, fireplace tools being one, along with spark screen
and whatever else I might change about the appearance.

Bob

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"Christoph Hormann" <Chr### [at] schunteretctu-bsde> wrote in message
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|
| And: Your "image in the image" should have real recursion :-)

Um, but that would mean an image of the same rendering and I don't have the
patience for that.

| You changed the bricks inside the fireplace: it gives much more depth, but
IMO
| the corners of the single bricks are a bit to sharp now.

You're right, and I need to get to work on the other 1/8 of this scene file of
which that is 1/16 of the 1/8.  The firebox is actually all wrong anyhow,
being only a cube with a singular brick texture and layered with soot texture
of course.
I won't post anymore of this until I have it finalized, as they say, or at
least upload it to my web page gallery.
Everyone's comments (doesn't take many) get me thinking and doing more than I
might otherwise try (so I blame you all  ;-))

Bob

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Excellent!

Add perhaps some ashes on the marble plate or a little wight with bucket and
scrubber :-) Wish we had one here ...

Marc-Hendrik

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Superb

Mick

"Bob Hughes" <per### [at] aolcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote in message
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> Back with it again, this time it's got a picture of itself over the
mantel.
> Although radiosity messes up the fire and log textures it makes the room
look
> so much better I can't do without it.  Wonder if I could manage to
cut&paste
> in a non-radiosity fire/logs.  I might do that.
> You'll notice the fire still looks fairly jagged-point like, as someone
has
> noticed before.  I want to get a more rolling flame look to it, maybe I
can
> stumble upon that later.  Enjoy the warmth in the meantime.
> Oh, btw, I came across a VRML file of a fireplace at a builders/sculptors
> webpage.  Thought maybe I had seen it before but I couldn't get the *.wrl
file
> to open here.  For the curious:
http://www.stonecarver.com/VRML/fireplace.wrl
>
> Bob
> --
> omniVerse http://users.aol.com/persistenceofv/all.htm
>
>
>
>

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"Marc-Hendrik Bremer" <Mar### [at] t-onlinede> wrote in message
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| Excellent!
|
| Add perhaps some ashes on the marble plate or a little wight with bucket and
| scrubber :-) Wish we had one here ...

Heh, thanks.  It's so 3D-computer-generated-clean though... really hate to
dirty it up.  I think I might have a "wight" around here from the looks of the
mess I always have.  I looked the word up and of the two definitions I'm
talking about the fighter one, but maybe you meant a hard-working blobwoman
maid.

Bob

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