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From: Jerome
Subject: Re: IRIDIA (~55kau)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 07:23:17
Message: <38B27FB5.C5731630@iname.com>
Ken wrote:
> 
> TonyB wrote:
> 
> > I put a lot of effort and inspiration into my story. No cliches whatsoever.
> > I didn't write it for school either. I wrote it for myself. I just came
> > together with all these ideas of mine, reinterpreted some futuristic ones
> > and thought and researched, and wrote. Then, while researching one day, I
> > find the story for Doom, and the friggin' thing was practically identical to
> > mine, to my grave dissapointment and dismay. :(
> 
> It has been noted that the likelihood of a person having an original thought
> is now almost impossible. Your story illustrates that point well. At the age
> of 8 I composed my first melody on the piano. It was I thought a reasonably
> complicated little ditty and I was very proud of it. Several years later I
> heard my tune almost note for note being played on a classical music radio
> station. The author of this obscure little melody - Mozart ! Go figure :)
> 
	Has anybody read "Melancholy Elephants" (I believe it's by
Spider Robinson)?

		Jerome
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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: IRIDIA (~55kau)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 10:10:24
Message: <38b2a6e0@news.povray.org>
>Ah, great, now I have groupies. *shakes head sadly*


I'm your biggest fan! <j/k> <j/k> <g> I think every POVer has had his
moment. I had it when I made the clouds with media (if for only a little
while). The problem with you is that you consistently repeat yourself and do
amazing things with blobs, and well, you keep your status high. I, on the
other hand, work on an irregular sine wave, every once in a while making
something useful and cool, then going back down to simple things (or at
least I feel it like that, what do you guys think?).

>Ok, let's see.  The media on the sides needs some work. The scale still
doesn't
>seem immediately apparent.

Right now it's just emmision inside tubes of cylinders and spheres. I might
put more work into it.

>Other than that, I suggest that you drop the cloud
>background and add stars and some sort of a moon.

I was thinking of a Dagobah kinda planet to put it exploring on. Maybe even
a group of 'em.

>Good job!

Thank you, Master. <bows his head>


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: IRIDIA (~55kau)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 11:14:37
Message: <38B2B595.C0A5885B@pacbell.net>
Jerome wrote:

>         Has anybody read "Melancholy Elephants" (I believe it's by
> Spider Robinson)?

I don't believe I have read that title but I have read Spider's work and
find him an interestingly strange individual.

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: IRIDIA (~55kau)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 23:27:38
Message: <38B36126.24BBE7A7@faricy.net>
TonyB wrote:

> I put a lot of effort and inspiration into my story. No cliches whatsoever.
> I didn't write it for school either. I wrote it for myself. I just came
> together with all these ideas of mine, reinterpreted some futuristic ones
> and thought and researched, and wrote. Then, while researching one day, I
> find the story for Doom, and the friggin' thing was practically identical to
> mine, to my grave dissapointment and dismay. :(

Hmm, that's not very common.
I still think people subconsciously incorporate things they've seen, though.
Maybe some of it came from a movie or something.

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From: Jerome
Subject: Re: IRIDIA (~55kau)
Date: 24 Feb 2000 11:35:52
Message: <38B55DE7.A6904EBB@iname.com>
Ken wrote:
> 
> Jerome wrote:
> 
> >         Has anybody read "Melancholy Elephants" (I believe it's by
> > Spider Robinson)?
> 
> I don't believe I have read that title but I have read Spider's work and
> find him an interestingly strange individual.
> 
	Well, it's a short story in which he speaks of art and he
says precisely that it is not so much a process of creation,
but rather one of discovery, and that eventually, we will
have discovered evry book and film and music that can be
written, and then where will we be? Pretty interesting...

		Jerome
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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: IRIDIA (~55kau)
Date: 24 Feb 2000 16:21:11
Message: <chrishuff_99-E02D60.16223624022000@news.povray.org>
In article <38B55DE7.A6904EBB@iname.com>, Jerome <ber### [at] inamecom> 
wrote:

> 	Well, it's a short story in which he speaks of art and he
> says precisely that it is not so much a process of creation,
> but rather one of discovery, and that eventually, we will
> have discovered evry book and film and music that can be
> written, and then where will we be? Pretty interesting...

By then some of them will have been lost and we will have to rediscover 
them....each generation might think they are coming up with original 
ideas, even if they are really quite old.
We won't run out of things to discover or create. At least, not as long 
as we keep creating things...

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Chris Huff
e-mail: chr### [at] yahoocom
Web page: http://chrishuff.dhs.org/


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From: Jerome
Subject: Re: IRIDIA (~55kau)
Date: 25 Feb 2000 04:27:43
Message: <38B64B0C.D255EE9C@iname.com>
Chris Huff wrote:
> 
> By then some of them will have been lost and we will have to rediscover
> them....each generation might think they are coming up with original
> ideas, even if they are really quite old.
> We won't run out of things to discover or create. At least, not as long
> as we keep creating things...
> 
	I hope so, the story is pretty depressing otherwise... But
what he says is that we're growing better and better at
preserving things, which means that less and less are lost
and left to rediscover :(

		Jerome
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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: IRIDIA (~55kau)
Date: 25 Feb 2000 07:19:54
Message: <chrishuff_99-7438A1.07211925022000@news.povray.org>
In article <38B64B0C.D255EE9C@iname.com>, Jerome <ber### [at] inamecom> 
wrote:

> 	I hope so, the story is pretty depressing otherwise... But
> what he says is that we're growing better and better at
> preserving things, which means that less and less are lost
> and left to rediscover :(

I don't know, I have plenty of fun looking through the "archives"(mostly 
books and internet resources for me) and learning things which other 
people have discovered. Just because something is known doesn't mean it 
isn't worth learning...and there is an awful lot of information out 
there, there is no way we could store it all.
If we do store a vast amount of information in one place(I mean several 
times the size of our largest library), than a new kind of researcher 
will have to appear, whose job is to search through and keep organized 
this resource. Finding a specific thing in that mass of information 
could be nearly as much work as discovering it again.(ok, so I 
exaggerated a little. But this effect is already happening on a smaller 
scale on the Internet.) AI's would be a big help too, but I don't think 
they would be able to handle everything.(no offense intended, Ken. :-) )

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e-mail: chr### [at] yahoocom
Web page: http://chrishuff.dhs.org/


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: IRIDIA (~55kau)
Date: 25 Feb 2000 09:07:27
Message: <38B68C01.5411199D@pacbell.net>
Chris Huff wrote:
> scale on the Internet.) AI's would be a big help too, but I don't think
> they would be able to handle everything.(no offense intended, Ken. :-) )

No offense taken. What you say is true. The information is out there but
finding it is the tricky part.

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http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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