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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Return of the Beach (whose beach?) [~65KB]
Date: 15 Feb 2000 16:45:06
Message: <slrn8aj7k4.35v.sjlen@zero-pps.localdomain>
Nice work Bob, I don't remember the original.  Something
hottible seems to have happened to this, either jpg or 
lack of aa or something.  Is that angle dependant 
relfection?

Keep going with it, it's going to be real good. 

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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Return of the Beach (whose beach?) [~65KB]
Date: 15 Feb 2000 16:45:07
Message: <slrn8aj7oi.35v.sjlen@zero-pps.localdomain>
I really like this one too but for different reasons.  The
sand looks so good. I've seen beaches where the sea and sand 
has this combination of colours. 
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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Return of the Beach (whose beach?) [~65KB]
Date: 15 Feb 2000 19:02:41
Message: <38a9e921@news.povray.org>
I'm just playing with the original scene file from Kevin Wampler.  Smaller
renders looked much better but there was always what seemed to me to be too much
specular highlight on the sea surface on the right side mostly.
It does have angle dependant reflection.  There's noticeable lines going from
shoreline out to sea at this resolution too and I don't have a clue why yet.
And I may have compressed the Jpg a bit much.
See the source at povray.text.scene-files titled Return of the Beach, Kevin
Wampler.

Bob

"Steve" <sjl### [at] ndirectcouk> wrote in message
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| Nice work Bob, I don't remember the original.  Something
| hottible seems to have happened to this, either jpg or
| lack of aa or something.  Is that angle dependant
| relfection?
|
| Keep going with it, it's going to be real good.
|
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| Cheers
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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: Return of the Beach (whose beach?) [~65KB]
Date: 15 Feb 2000 20:11:52
Message: <38A9F95F.AF5084DA@tapestry.tucson.az.us>
Woah, cool!!  I had thought that this scene was long forgotten, but I'm very glad
to see that people are getting some use out of it still.  Also, thank you for
reposting it to p.t.s-f.   I like the image, and think that it does a better job of
presenting the technique than mine did.  However, as I'm sure you have realized,
the textures still need some work if you intend to make a scene out of it.


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Return of the Beach (whose beach?) [~65KB]
Date: 15 Feb 2000 22:11:07
Message: <38aa154b@news.povray.org>
You're welcome and thanks.  Was wondering if I had seen you around in the recent
past or not.
When I found the original scene source again I was surprised that you yourself
were the one and only replier there.  When I gathered it up from the p.t.s-f.
group the first time I just stored it into my c:\povpath\scenes folder and
hadn't tried using it until now.
At least a few more people are going to see it now, and it was always a good
image because I believe the original p.b.i. posting of it had several replies.
Not all that long ago actually, only a half year.

Bob

"Kevin Wampler" <kev### [at] tapestrytucsonazus> wrote in message
news:38A9F95F.AF5084DA@tapestry.tucson.az.us...
| Woah, cool!!  I had thought that this scene was long forgotten, but I'm very
glad
| to see that people are getting some use out of it still.  Also, thank you for
| reposting it to p.t.s-f.   I like the image, and think that it does a better
job of
| presenting the technique than mine did.  However, as I'm sure you have
realized,
| the textures still need some work if you intend to make a scene out of it.
|


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: Return of the Beach (whose beach?) [~65KB]
Date: 15 Feb 2000 22:43:28
Message: <38AA1CE2.AECBF8B6@tapestry.tucson.az.us>
Bob Hughes wrote:

> You're welcome and thanks.  Was wondering if I had seen you around in the recent
> past or not.

Yeah, I am now living on campus and the computer I ordered hasn't arrived yet (it
should pretty soon though), so I am only able to skim through the newsgroups once
to twice a week.


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Return of the Beach (whose beach?) [~65KB]
Date: 16 Feb 2000 00:43:25
Message: <slrn8ak943.55e.sjlen@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:02:56 -0600, Bob Hughes 
<omn### [at] hotmailcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote:
>I'm just playing with the original scene file from Kevin Wampler.  Smaller
>renders looked much better but there was always what seemed to me to be too much
>specular highlight on the sea surface on the right side mostly.
>It does have angle dependant reflection.  There's noticeable lines going from
>shoreline out to sea at this resolution too and I don't have a clue why yet.
>And I may have compressed the Jpg a bit much.
>See the source at povray.text.scene-files titled Return of the Beach, Kevin
>Wampler.

I should have given a better explanation, looking out to sea there is what
looks to be a path (could be the way the sun is shining), this isn't the
problem though, the problem is what looks like brown pixelation on the sea
to the left and right of this central path, it looks real messy, I'll try
a render at my end and see what comes out. 

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Return of the Beach (whose beach?) [~65KB]
Date: 16 Feb 2000 01:53:20
Message: <38aa4960@news.povray.org>
I think it's isosurface trouble causing that.  Ever see the talk about the black
pixel problem with these sort of things?  max_gradient I believe.  I think it
might be related to that in part coupled with the refraction, but I'm not sure.
I haven't changed anything and rendered again yet.  Basically it could be just
the odd lines perpendicular to the shoreline (pointing out to sea) and surface
unevenness to blame mostly.

Bob

"Steve" <sjl### [at] ndirectcouk> wrote in message
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| looking out to sea there is what
| looks to be a path (could be the way the sun is shining), this isn't the
| problem though, the problem is what looks like brown pixelation on the sea
| to the left and right of this central path, it looks real messy, I'll try
| a render at my end and see what comes out.


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From: Bouf
Subject: Re: Return of the Beach (whose beach?) [~65KB]
Date: 16 Feb 2000 03:22:58
Message: <38AA61E0.E6F068A@nanterre.marelli.fr>
Well, just 2 things:

- It's a part of a project I'm working on, and your comments make me
think I'm in the right direction. Thanks to all of you.

- The sand texture is actually *almost* simplistic. It looks good
because it's applied to an isosurface (simply a plane with different
levels of noise3d...)

Bouf.


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Return of the Beach (whose beach?) [~65KB]
Date: 16 Feb 2000 16:35:29
Message: <slrn8alp0f.5m7.sjlen@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 00:53:29 -0600, Bob Hughes 
<omn### [at] hotmailcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote:
>I think it's isosurface trouble causing that.  Ever see the talk about the black
>pixel problem with these sort of things?  max_gradient I believe.  I think it
>might be related to that in part coupled with the refraction, but I'm not sure.
>I haven't changed anything and rendered again yet.  Basically it could be just
>the odd lines perpendicular to the shoreline (pointing out to sea) and surface
>unevenness to blame mostly.

I've done a render and it looks exactly the same, so it wasn't jpg.  I don't 
know enough about isosurfaces to mess with it really, I'll need to start with 
a much simpler example I think. 

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