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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: What happened
Date: 19 Feb 2000 00:59:35
Message: <oDCuONAEZikOz1nm0YyowB+L=1qZ@4ax.com>
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:30:29 -0800, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

>One benifit of a CD version of the server is that you would not have
>to wait for large binary attachments to download over a slow assed
>modem connection :)

Yes, it would certainly have some benefits.

later,
Glen Berry


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: What happened
Date: 19 Feb 2000 03:48:38
Message: <8EDF6C529seed7@204.213.191.228>
Ken wrote:

>What I think might work is an annual purge of older files. For example
>once per year in the month of November we can announce that on Jan. 1
>all message 1 year or older are about to go away.

How about transferring the purged files to a web archive on one of the free 
webspace providers. For example like: http://members.xoom.com/altphotoprc/

Ingo

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: What happened
Date: 19 Feb 2000 03:57:57
Message: <38AE5AC4.E5F85108@pacbell.net>
ingo wrote:

> How about transferring the purged files to a web archive on one of the free
> webspace providers. For example like: http://members.xoom.com/altphotoprc/

  I doubt Chris would ever go for this. Every one of us that use this
news server are protected from spam bots collecting our addresses and
bombarding us with spam. The second you move these articles to a public
web site we all become potential victims. Many of the people here use
non spam protected e-mail addresses because they know they are protected
on this closed news server. It would be a violation of that faith we
have put in Chris's efforts to provide us with a spam free environment
and I don't think he would intentionaly work against himself in that
regard.

Nope. I do not see this as an alternative nor do I think others would
be happy about it.

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From: ingo
Subject: Re: What happened
Date: 19 Feb 2000 04:31:53
Message: <8EDF62F4Cseed7@204.213.191.228>
Ken wrote:

>The second you move these articles to a public
>web site we all become potential victims.

You're right, for a moment I forgot about the dark side.

Ingo

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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: What happened
Date: 19 Feb 2000 06:42:25
Message: <goCuOLh6Al8OsWYvDfQ71JtXuf4n@4ax.com>
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:55:24 -0500, Glen Berry <7no### [at] ezwvcom>
wrote:

>It would be nice to keep this history archived *somewhere*, but I'm
>not sure where. Perhaps distributing CD-ROM's with news archives as
>someone suggested is a possibility, but even if we don't have an
>archive of news, we'll still get along fine. 

I archive them on CD every month. Everyone could do the same at will.
Selling this CDs though would violate the copyrights of maybe a
thousand people, and getting permission to do so would be an
unbearable if not impossible task, what with casual posters, obsolete
e-mails etc.


Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
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From: Steve
Subject: Re: What happened
Date: 19 Feb 2000 11:02:42
Message: <slrn8ate99.an0.sjlen@zero-pps.localdomain>
I think it's good to have this archive here and accessible to all
people all the time.  There have been some really interesting 
threads since I've been here (June 1998), and I once d/l'd almost
all of the images, then a HD problem came and I lost everything
but it's all still here if I want it.  I havn't got access to 
a CD writer, and can't affort one now or in the forseeable future,
and also can't afford to d/l the whole of p.b.i, but I can go and 
get the bits that I want or need any time I like because they're 
here.

I remember as a new boy, going through this group looking at all
the previous images, it was a great inspiration to me, and probably
still is to other new commers.  

Just my 2p worth. Long Live POV and brother Mega.

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: What happened
Date: 19 Feb 2000 15:26:25
Message: <38AEFBF7.B283A5FE@faricy.net>
Peter Popov wrote:

> I archive them on CD every month. Everyone could do the same at will.

What about us poor online modem readers?

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: What happened
Date: 19 Feb 2000 15:27:47
Message: <38AEFC48.DA99728@faricy.net>
Ken wrote:

> ingo wrote:
>
> > How about transferring the purged files to a web archive on one of the free
> > webspace providers. For example like: http://members.xoom.com/altphotoprc/
>
>   I doubt Chris would ever go for this. Every one of us that use this
> news server are protected from spam bots collecting our addresses and
> bombarding us with spam. The second you move these articles to a public
> web site we all become potential victims. Many of the people here use
> non spam protected e-mail addresses because they know they are protected
> on this closed news server. It would be a violation of that faith we
> have put in Chris's efforts to provide us with a spam free environment
> and I don't think he would intentionaly work against himself in that
> regard.

Could it be possible to find a secure/encrypted website for old posts?

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: What happened
Date: 19 Feb 2000 15:29:38
Message: <38AEFCBA.CBD18C48@faricy.net>
How can there not be enough room on the server? I thought there was only
about two CDs worth of stuff in all the groups.

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: What happened
Date: 19 Feb 2000 15:54:10
Message: <38AF02A9.865CEC71@pacbell.net>
David Fontaine wrote:
> 
> How can there not be enough room on the server?

There is a finite amount of space set aside for this server and that
space has been consumed by 3 years of growing activity.

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http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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