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From: ryan mooney
Subject: Re: Escher POV museum (78kbbu)
Date: 27 Jan 2000 04:32:39
Message: <388EC16C.61FC6A5@earthlink.net>
bery good... like it alot... i think the linking web page is an exceptional
idea... hope you have fun... good luck...

David Fontaine wrote:

> Gallery of my favorite POV artists! :-)
> (And a nice model by M.C. Escher of course)
> I think I will put it on a webpage and have each painting be a link to
> that artist's page. That way it's functional and also serves to give
> full credit to the authors! Everyone's happy! (I would also make the
> alt. text for each seperate image (yes I would break it down into
> several images) include the artist and title because most browsers pop
> this up as a tooltip.)
> Render time 23:11:52 @ 1600x1600 (85 light sources might be the
> problem...)
>
> Includes:
> Jaime Vives Piqueres -- Fuente
> Jaime Vives Piqueres -- Castillo
> Jaime Vives Piqueres -- Bonsai
> Lance Birch -- Cyber Rose
> Lance Birch -- Trapped
> Jeff Lee -- Asteroid Belt
> Jeff Lee -- Delta Vega
> Jeff Lee -- Eminiar VII
> Jeff Lee -- A Scholler's Tools
> Justin Whitton -- Portal
> Justin Whitton -- Seasword
> Justin Whitton -- Living Color Cube
> Justin Whitton -- Docked Defender
> Justin Whitton -- Buttercup
> Gilles Tran -- Migrants
> Gilles Tran -- The Giant
> Gilles Tran -- The Big Fight
> Gilles Tran -- La Selva de las Palabras
> Gilles Tran -- The Gallery
> Gilles Tran -- The Chargers
> Govert Zoethout -- O
> Govert Zoethout -- X
> Govert Zoethout -- P
> Govert Zoethout -- U
> Gail Shaw -- Give Me the Prize
> Gail Shaw -- Crew Quarters
> Gail Shaw -- Spooky Night
> Mick Hazelgrove -- We're All Awash
> Mick Hazelgrove -- African Nights
> Mick Hazelgrove -- Four Elements
> Mick Hazelgrove -- Mountain Tarn
> Mick Hazelgrove -- Guardian
> Mick Hazelgrove -- Evensong
> Mick Hazelgrove -- Ploughed Field
> Mick Hazelgrove -- Two Hands
> Mick Hazelgrove -- Lake
>
> Hope you enjoy (your ego, seeing your pic in the gallery that is :-) )!
>
> --
> Homepage: http://www.faricy.net/~davidf/
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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Escher POV museum (78kbbu)
Date: 27 Jan 2000 04:39:22
Message: <3890124a@news.povray.org>
>Gail Shaw -- Give Me the Prize
>Gail Shaw -- Crew Quarters
>Gail Shaw -- Spooky Night


I'm flattered. Thank you

>Hope you enjoy (your ego, seeing your pic in the gallery that is :-) )!


Oh definatly <grin>

Gail
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From: Uwe Zimmermann
Subject: Re: Escher POV museum (78kbbu)
Date: 27 Jan 2000 04:56:42
Message: <38901656.4600AAC7@ele.kth.se>
David Fontaine schrieb:
> 
> Gallery of my favorite POV artists! :-)
> (And a nice model by M.C. Escher of course)
> I think I will put it on a webpage and have each painting be a link to
> that artist's page. That way it's functional and also serves to give
> full credit to the authors! Everyone's happy! (I would also make the
> alt. text for each seperate image (yes I would break it down into
> several images) include the artist and title because most browsers pop
> this up as a tooltip.)

Don't break it up! It might not be displayed correctly in
some browsers...
Create a client-side image map instead. Using the title=
attribute you can get a pop-up windows at least in
IExplorer, not yet in Netscape (v4.7)... or you can use
Javascript to display the information in the status line of
the browser... just an idea...

Uwe.


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From: Peter Warren
Subject: Re: Escher POV museum (78kbbu)
Date: 27 Jan 2000 05:45:23
Message: <389021c3@news.povray.org>
Niffty ideas, for sure.

I'm use Netscape (v4.61), maybe I should upgrade.

Javascript, eww. gross. Gag me with a spoon. *Whatever*

Peter Warren
war### [at] hotmailcom


Uwe Zimmermann wrote in message <38901656.4600AAC7@ele.kth.se>...
 >Don't break it up! It might not be displayed correctly in
>some browsers...
>Create a client-side image map instead. Using the title=
>attribute you can get a pop-up windows at least in
>IExplorer, not yet in Netscape (v4.7)... or you can use
>Javascript to display the information in the status line of
>the browser... just an idea...
>
>Uwe.


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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Escher POV museum (78kbbu)
Date: 27 Jan 2000 05:56:52
Message: <389023D0.53819E7D@xs4all.nl>
I must admit that ever the first version I didn't expect it to become
such a great thing (yet another Escher-interpretation...). But you've
made it into a a real post-modern masterpiece ;)
I think a larger version would be nice.
The image seems a bit crowded with the paintings all very close to each
other. This makes it look more like a late 19th centure 'salon' then a
museum. The copperlike texture also make it look slightly archaic.
Perhaps you could town down the stone structure just a little bit?
It seems you gave each image a little spotlight which I think is nice.
It isn't to clear everywhere, some images disappear a bit into darkness.
I wonder how it would look if you gave the images a higher ambient-value
(I have no idea if this works with imagemaps).
Anyway, a great technical achievement.

Have you seen Peter Houstons version of this Escher-image?

Remco


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Subject: Re: Escher POV museum (78kbbu)
Date: 27 Jan 2000 06:19:44
Message: <k8e1z73g6y5.fsf@totolv04.stud.ntnu.no>
"Peter Warren" <int### [at] halcyoncom> writes:
> Javascript, eww. gross. Gag me with a spoon. *Whatever*

Why is that? Check out www.php.net and tell me you don't like the popups there.

-- 
Sigmund Kyrre Aas 
Trondheim, Norway


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From: Peter Warren
Subject: Re: Escher POV museum (78kbbu)
Date: 27 Jan 2000 09:12:49
Message: <38905261@news.povray.org>
Remco de Korte wrote in message <389023D0.53819E7D@xs4all.nl>...
>I must admit that ever the first version I didn't expect it to become
>such a great thing (yet another Escher-interpretation...). But you've
>made it into a a real post-modern masterpiece ;)

What???  'first'
For sure I ignore all Escher/Dali/Picasso posts. But this one
stopped me cold

>I think a larger version would be nice.

"Don't ask or you just might receive"

>The image seems a bit crowded with the paintings all very close to each
>other.

Just  slightly, I leave it to the artist to decide.

>This makes it look more like a late 19th centure 'salon' then a
>museum.
Whow, how Right On could you be with this19th cent bit.
As if there is something wrong with this. David has it
spot on, I think.

>Anyway, a great technical achievement.
WCFM (What count for me) yea, for sure.

>Have you seen Peter Houstons version of this Escher-image?
no. should I?

Personal to Remko:
Your English is superb.
Don't let anyone tell you
otherwise.
however  i.e. "ever since..."

oh yea, david your great, blah, blah,blah, whatever....


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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Escher POV museum (78kbbu)
Date: 27 Jan 2000 09:38:52
Message: <389057D8.2FCFFDAE@xs4all.nl>
Peter Warren wrote:
> 
> Personal to Remko:
> Your English is superb.
> Don't let anyone tell you
> otherwise.
> however  i.e. "ever since..."
> 
> oh yea, david your great, blah, blah,blah, whatever....

That should've read "after the first..." or something like that.
After that I rambled on a bit but it was all meant in a positive way.

BTW whatever happened to the 'c' in my name?
;)

Rem#o


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Escher POV museum (78kbbu)
Date: 27 Jan 2000 11:08:26
Message: <slrn890rap.v8.ron.parker@ron.gwmicro.com>
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:54:08 +0100, Remco de Korte wrote:
>The image seems a bit crowded with the paintings all very close to each
>other. This makes it look more like a late 19th centure 'salon' then a
>museum.

The last time I went to the Toledo (Ohio) Museum of Art, several years 
ago, they were doing extensive renovations on some of their galleries, 
and they had gathered all of their fine art together in a single room, 
on a single wall, floor-to-ceiling, with very little room between 
frames.  A plaque on the floor had a guide as to which paintings were 
which.  The effect was stunning, far more moving than looking at any 
one picture by itself.

-- 
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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Escher POV museum (78kbbu)
Date: 27 Jan 2000 14:20:28
Message: <389099D7.3037376@xs4all.nl>
Ron Parker wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:54:08 +0100, Remco de Korte wrote:
> >The image seems a bit crowded with the paintings all very close to
> each
> >other. This makes it look more like a late 19th centure 'salon' then
> a
> >museum.
> 
> The last time I went to the Toledo (Ohio) Museum of Art, several years
> ago, they were doing extensive renovations on some of their galleries,
> and they had gathered all of their fine art together in a single room,
> on a single wall, floor-to-ceiling, with very little room between
> frames.  A plaque on the floor had a guide as to which paintings were
> which.  The effect was stunning, far more moving than looking at any
> one picture by itself.
> 
> --

Since art move beyond frames (20th century) this is not very common any
more. Notice how many modern paintings have no frame, or at most an
insignificant one, while some 17th century masterpieces are more frame
then painting. Either way it's an artistic choice with a functionality.
Makes you wonder about a monitor as frame. 

Remco


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