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From: Ken
Subject: A Proceedural Mona Lisa
Date: 16 Jan 2000 00:07:26
Message: <38815139.B6D61A5@pacbell.net>
No image maps were used in the creation of this image. Individualy
pigmented spheres yes, image maps no !

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From: Spider
Subject: Re: A Proceedural Mona Lisa
Date: 16 Jan 2000 00:41:04
Message: <3881550D.C3E32F67@bahnhof.se>
Ken wrote:
> 
> No image maps were used in the creation of this image. Individualy
> pigmented spheres yes, image maps no !
> 
*lol*
Nicers nicers.. Got the source for that util, or the ling or something? I kinda
want a linux copy of it (if there is one avaiable :)


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    My guardian angel walks away
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    Black wind come carry me far away
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From: omniVERSE
Subject: Re: A Proceedural Mona Lisa
Date: 16 Jan 2000 01:41:18
Message: <3881680e@news.povray.org>
I think it must be the TGA Mosaic utility:
http://www.coe.uncc.edu/~adwoodfi/tga.html

The colors match up with the painting well it seems.  If it isn't TGA
Mosaic-made then I don't know how it could've been done (isosurface? it's always
isosurfaces...).

Bob

"Spider" <spi### [at] bahnhofse> wrote in message
news:3881550D.C3E32F67@bahnhof.se...
> Ken wrote:
> >
> > No image maps were used in the creation of this image. Individualy
> > pigmented spheres yes, image maps no !
> >
> *lol*
> Nicers nicers.. Got the source for that util, or the ling or something? I
kinda
> want a linux copy of it (if there is one avaiable :)
>
>
> --
> file://Spider    --  [ spider@bahnhof.se ]-[ http://darkmere.wanfear.com/ ]
> And the devil in black dress watches over
>     My guardian angel walks away
> Life is short and love is always over in the morning
>     Black wind come carry me far away
>             --"Sisters of Mercy" -- "Temple Of Love"


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: A Proceedural Mona Lisa
Date: 16 Jan 2000 01:46:52
Message: <388168DC.FF35A6E@pacbell.net>
omniVERSE wrote:
> 
> I think it must be the TGA Mosaic utility:
> http://www.coe.uncc.edu/~adwoodfi/tga.html
> 
> The colors match up with the painting well it seems.  If it isn't TGA
> Mosaic-made then I don't know how it could've been done (isosurface? it's always
> isosurfaces...).

Nope. You nailed it Bob.

Spider,

This is a Win app only with no source available at it's home page. You can
try contacting Andy Woodfin directly to see if he will share it with you.
You can mention my name, it might help. I was one of his beta testers.

adw### [at] unccedu

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http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Jon A  Cruz
Subject: Re: A Proceedural Mona Lisa
Date: 16 Jan 2000 02:24:54
Message: <388172FC.84339D57@geocities.com>
Ken wrote:

> omniVERSE wrote:
> >
> > I think it must be the TGA Mosaic utility:
> > http://www.coe.uncc.edu/~adwoodfi/tga.html
> >
> > The colors match up with the painting well it seems.  If it isn't TGA
> > Mosaic-made then I don't know how it could've been done (isosurface? it's always
> > isosurfaces...).
>
> Nope. You nailed it Bob.
>
> Spider,
>
> This is a Win app only with no source available at it's home page. You can
> try contacting Andy Woodfin directly to see if he will share it with you.
> You can mention my name, it might help. I was one of his beta testers.
>
> adw### [at] unccedu
>

I'm doing that as we speak. I realized that this is the kind of thing that is very
well suited to doing under Java. Since I've done lots of TGA conversions utilities in
the past, this should be quite easy. I'll see if he wants to collaborate. If he's too
busy or whatnot, I'll go ahead and do a Java version so that more people can enjoy
this sort of thing.


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But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: A Proceedural Mona Lisa
Date: 16 Jan 2000 02:43:59
Message: <38817636.95721485@pacbell.net>
"Jon A. Cruz" wrote:

> I'm doing that as we speak. I realized that this is the kind of thing that is very
> well suited to doing under Java. Since I've done lots of TGA conversions utilities
in
> the past, this should be quite easy. I'll see if he wants to collaborate. If he's
too
> busy or whatnot, I'll go ahead and do a Java version so that more people can enjoy
> this sort of thing.

Since Pov can read tga's directly I wonder how difficult it would be to
patch this directly into Pov itself...

-- 
Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: omniVERSE
Subject: Re: A Proceedural Mona Lisa
Date: 16 Jan 2000 02:46:31
Message: <38817757@news.povray.org>
Ears perk up.

Bob

"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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>
> Since Pov can read tga's directly I wonder how difficult it would be to
> patch this directly into Pov itself...


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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: A Proceedural Mona Lisa
Date: 16 Jan 2000 03:36:41
Message: <tYCBOGwm7K2yAOJkIgyaNFNdS=TG@4ax.com>
On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:20:13 +0100, Spider <spi### [at] bahnhofse> wrote:

>Ken wrote:
>> 
>> No image maps were used in the creation of this image. Individualy
>> pigmented spheres yes, image maps no !
>> 
>*lol*
>Nicers nicers.. Got the source for that util, or the ling or something? I kinda
>want a linux copy of it (if there is one avaiable :)

This can also be done with TGADOT. It's an older utility program
available from the povray server. It's written in C, and I've
personally re-compiled it myself for WIN95 command line use. I also
added a few enhancements while I was at it. I haven't asked the
original author about making my version public, but perhaps I should.
His version uses an older povray syntax that needs to be updated.

I had no trouble re-compiling this for WIN95, and I doubt that it
would be any problem for LINUX or most any other OS.

Later,
Glen Berry


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From: Jon A  Cruz
Subject: Re: A Proceedural Mona Lisa
Date: 16 Jan 2000 04:03:56
Message: <38818A32.6010CF89@geocities.com>
omniVERSE wrote:

> Ears perk up.
>
> Bob
>
> "Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
> news:38817636.95721485@pacbell.net...
> >
> > Since Pov can read tga's directly I wonder how difficult it would be to
> > patch this directly into Pov itself...

No no nonoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Fight the bloat! Fight the bloat!

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But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: A Proceedural Mona Lisa
Date: 16 Jan 2000 04:29:54
Message: <38818EFC.E23C91FE@pacbell.net>
Glen Berry wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:20:13 +0100, Spider <spi### [at] bahnhofse> wrote:
> 
> >Ken wrote:
> >>
> >> No image maps were used in the creation of this image. Individualy
> >> pigmented spheres yes, image maps no !
> >>
> >*lol*
> >Nicers nicers.. Got the source for that util, or the ling or something? I kinda
> >want a linux copy of it (if there is one avaiable :)
> 
> This can also be done with TGADOT. It's an older utility program
> available from the povray server. It's written in C, and I've
> personally re-compiled it myself for WIN95 command line use. I also
> added a few enhancements while I was at it. I haven't asked the
> original author about making my version public, but perhaps I should.
> His version uses an older povray syntax that needs to be updated.
> 
> I had no trouble re-compiling this for WIN95, and I doubt that it
> would be any problem for LINUX or most any other OS.
> 
> Later,
> Glen Berry

Unless you have made signifigant improvements TgaMosaic is a far
superior product. TGADOT had the terrible habit of conveting
each pixel of the image into an object which created extremely
large file sizes. TgaMosaic has options for averaging the pixels
to reduce object count plus it allows for different object types,
user definable rotations, a built in clock variable for animating
the image, plus other nifty inhancements. I'm not knocking TGADOT
mind you but without some serious work it's limitations make
TgaMosaic a much better choice for modern POV-Ray users.

-- 
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http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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