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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Shut up Spider
Date: 29 Apr 1999 06:10:34
Message: <372821D2.73D6AC8@aol.com>
Rygad wrote:
> 
> Note- I am far too awed by the regular postings here to add my immature and
> simple abstract images to the esteemed collection here.

Oh like your the only one huh?:)

"Esteemed collection" may be too high a praise, however I have to agree
that this group is a fine gallery of works done with POV-Ray showing
many varied aspects. Better than cruising the web pages sometimes.
Come on, post some immature abstract stuff, everyone else does. Just
kidding folks.

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From: Axel Hecht
Subject: Re: Shut up Spider
Date: 29 Apr 1999 06:40:11
Message: <37282944.89FF0A13@numerik.uni-kiel.de>
Nathan R. Zwalsh wrote:
> 
> I did notice one thing though, I'm no internet pro and dont know what a nntp
> address is, but i'm assuming that it I.D's the e-mail server in nick's case
> (Hot mail.com) which is a very popular free e-mail server and anyone could
> use it. But i could be wrong..
> 
> Nathan Zwalsh
> 
> ps Scott McDonald A.K.A Sherlock Holmes . good detective work.


Not only Scott is into detective games:
Here is the output of nslookup:

216.254.0.24.in-addr.arpa  name=cx967847-a.crans1.ri.home.com
254.0.24.in-addr.arpa   nameserver = ns1.home.net
254.0.24.in-addr.arpa   nameserver = ns2.home.net
ns1.home.net    internet address = 24.0.0.27
ns2.home.net    internet address = 24.2.0.27

No hotmail around. Looks like his home :-)

Axel


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From: Marc Schimmler
Subject: Re: Shut up Spider
Date: 29 Apr 1999 06:51:16
Message: <37282B93.14EEF6E1@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
Axel Hecht wrote:
> 
> Nathan R. Zwalsh wrote:
> >
> > I did notice one thing though, I'm no internet pro and dont know what a nntp
> > address is, but i'm assuming that it I.D's the e-mail server in nick's case
> > (Hot mail.com) which is a very popular free e-mail server and anyone could
> > use it. But i could be wrong..
> >
> > Nathan Zwalsh
> >
> > ps Scott McDonald A.K.A Sherlock Holmes . good detective work.
> 
> Not only Scott is into detective games:
> Here is the output of nslookup:
> 
> 216.254.0.24.in-addr.arpa  name=cx967847-a.crans1.ri.home.com
> 254.0.24.in-addr.arpa   nameserver = ns1.home.net
> 254.0.24.in-addr.arpa   nameserver = ns2.home.net
> ns1.home.net    internet address = 24.0.0.27
> ns2.home.net    internet address = 24.2.0.27
> 
> No hotmail around. Looks like his home :-)
> 
> Axel

It's in Cranston, RI. If you're up to it you even can get his address
and phone number. No use for that though. It's difficult to hide in the
net ... even for me! :-)

Marc
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From: Rick (Kitty5)
Subject: Re: Shut up Spider
Date: 29 Apr 1999 09:21:16
Message: <37284ebc.0@news.povray.org>
<BOOM>

Shot down!

Thsught i'd better respond as the critisms of Kens that was quoted was in
fact leveled at an image of mine.

All i can say is, Thanks Ken, for some quality feedback, after all, if all i
wanted was biased one sided prase, i could have shown the image to my family
:)

my my, there are some clever ppl on this NG, well done all who figured out
the TRUE identity of "_", btw lookie what i found in another POV.NG

Reply-To: "_" <_@_.com>
From: "_" <_@_.com>
Newsgroups: povray.binaries.utilities
Subject: f
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:42:57 -0400
Lines: 3
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.0.254.216
Message-ID: <3727b94e.0@news.povray.org>
X-Trace: 28 Apr 1999 21:43:42 -0500, 24.0.254.216
X-No-Archive: Yes
X-Copyright: This copyrighted article comes from a private news server and
may NOT be redistributed.
Path: news.povray.org!24.0.254.216
Xref: news.povray.org povray.binaries.utilities:1999

with a one letter post ( F ), looks like a test post to see of his attemps
at masking his identity would wash?


Rick


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Shut up Spider
Date: 29 Apr 1999 10:08:57
Message: <37285913.D7861DAD@ndirect.co.uk>
Dear WATCH MAKER, or whoever,

I rarely post images, I think it's been two in the last twelve
months.  I try to give compliments to every image, and make
suggestions as to improvements/possible further development of
the scene.

So you can probably lump me in with Spider and Ken, though they
produce far much work than myself, and their criticisms and
suggestions are from a viewpoint that has much more POV
experience and knowledge behind it than my own.

This group including Ken and Spider are also tolerant of people
who don't have a clue, and those people given this environment
grow as artists to become accomplished and esteemed individuals
within the group within a short period of time.

Cheers
Steve

_ wrote:
> 
> Also I have to complain about ken..who ever he is and his butt buddy here
> spider think they are...they have no right to complain about such stupid and
> small details and errors. Like for example!
> 
> A few posts down "CD-ROMs attempt at photo realism"
> ken said and I quote!
> 
> "That's a nice set of table coaster you have there (don't try to figure
> it out it's an inside joke around here). Seriously this is one of the
> better attempts on this theme I have seen to date. It is evident you
> put considerable effort into it and it has paid off. Be careful with
> the use of the work photo realism. Do you want it to look like a photo,
> or do you want it to look like a real life view of this object in this
> setting, fooling the viewer that it was indeed really there ??"
> Now its a positive statement..but he has to add something negative! like
> below where he gets upset about something so stupid and small...the use of
> the word photorealism in this mans subject!
> 
>    KEN:    "I disliket he term photo realism for the above stated argument.
> It
> seems contrary to the intent of the artist to mimic reality in a
> virtual medium."
> 
> I mean come on! shut up! i dont ever see you or spider posting your
> pictures! im sure you could do a kick ass ob but come on man!
> 
> _


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From: Hans-Detlev Fink
Subject: Re: Shut up Spider
Date: 29 Apr 1999 10:31:05
Message: <37285ED8.730A3BC2@pecos.nospam.de>
Ian Burgmyer wrote:
> 
> Nope.  I *think* (correct me if I'm wrong) that it is actually the extended
> headers in the newsgroup post.  This gives a detailed explanation of the

Yes, try View-->Headers-->All if you're using Netscape 4.5.

> authors name, E-Mail address, the format from the post (text/html,
> text/plain, or something like that), some other info, and the poster's IP
> address.  The IP address identifies someone on the Internet.  It is of the

Almost. To be nitpicking: It identifies a _machine_ on the Internet.
This is not necessarily the same as an individual. (Heard of multiuser
systems?)

> format x.x.x.x, with x being an integer from 0 to 255.  Since Nick has cable
> modem (SUPER FAST) services through @Home.com, his never changes.  However,
> with a dial-up ISP, it changes more-often-then-not.  Right now, my IP is
> 208.210.22.16.  Now next time I dial up to my ISP, it could change.  Maybe
> to 208.210.22.10 or even 208.210.22.99.  Usually, on these dynamic IP's
> (where it changes), the last number changes.

I can't believe that each cable modem has its own IP address. I guess
they are shared in a somewhat dynamic way.

> 
> Scott noticed, by looking at the message headers, that Nick's (being a cable
> modem user through @home) IP was 24.0.254.216 in both messages.  Good sign
> of an attempted cover up.

I agree. That's what stochastics tells us.

-Hans-


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From: Marc Schimmler
Subject: Re: Shut up Spider
Date: 29 Apr 1999 10:45:27
Message: <3728626F.7B57300E@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
Hans-Detlev Fink wrote:
> 
> 
> I can't believe that each cable modem has its own IP address. I guess
> they are shared in a somewhat dynamic way.
> 
> -Hans-

Even in Germany do the cable modems have a static IP address. This is
useful due 
to the fact that it is connected 24 hrs a day. You could also check
www.home.com if you want more information on that.

Marc
-- 
Marc Schimmler


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From: GrimDude
Subject: Re: Shut up Spider
Date: 29 Apr 1999 11:19:07
Message: <37286a5b.0@news.povray.org>
If anyone *does* call this guy, please keep it nice, tell him he is
forgiven, just please bring the threads back to RAY-TRACING, our hobby and
first (foremost) love. <G>

GrimDude
vos### [at] arkansasnet


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From: GrimDude
Subject: Re: Shut up Spider
Date: 29 Apr 1999 11:22:35
Message: <37286b2b.0@news.povray.org>
POST, Post, post....

GrimDude
vos### [at] arkansasnet

Rygad wrote in message <372808a5.0@news.povray.org>...
>All I can say is that is a great piece of detective work.  Wish I had
>thought of it first.  Also wish I had replied when I first saw it.  Oh
well,
>such is life that we must put up with this sort of behavior from those who
>will not take the time to learn real skill.
>
>Rygad
>
>Note- I am far too awed by the regular postings here to add my immature and
>simple abstract  images to the esteemed collection here.
>
>


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From: Simon de Vet
Subject: Re: Shut up Spider
Date: 29 Apr 1999 11:39:17
Message: <37286F25.3480A0D8@istar.ca>
Rick (Kitty5) wrote:

> <BOOM>
>
> Shot down!
>
> Thsught i'd better respond as the critisms of Kens that was quoted was in
> fact leveled at an image of mine.
>
> All i can say is, Thanks Ken, for some quality feedback, after all, if all i
> wanted was biased one sided prase, i could have shown the image to my family
> :)

Lucky you... all my family gives me is criticism :)


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