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From: SamuelT 
Subject: Atmospheric planet
Date: 23 Apr 1999 01:02:50
Message: <01bdce43$df0ace80$4ebac998@default>
Here is a planet scene I started tonight. It uses basic techniques, plus a
not-so-basic technique for the sun's halo that I made up myself. I am happy
with it so far, but I can't seem to dissolve the moon's shadows into the
atmosphere. The atmosphere is part background color and part fog. Any
suggestions?
	I will also try to make the moons ripple down at the bottom, as if the sun
were heating things up a bit. I already have an idea for that.
	Any comments or questions are appreciated.

SamuelT


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Atmospheric planet
Date: 23 Apr 1999 05:52:07
Message: <37203489.EE7FFBC0@aol.com>
First thing I have to say is you may want to try upping the ambient on
the moons while at the same time decreasing the diffuse. It can be quite
a trick to get just right, I did two such pictures before.
You don't have a filtering value in that fog do you, by that I mean a
4th color vector component (or even a 5th) since this will change the
fog from the usual way it works.
Since you have a background color there sounds like you could at least
try to match that as much as possible if not altogether use the same
pigment in the moons first. Then from there adjust ambient and diffuse.
Are you thinking of doing a gradient y (or spherical, depending on how
used) atmosphere "enveloping object with interior ior and turbulating it
some?
I'd like to see the image if it works, I've thought of trying one myself
and never got around to it.


"SamuelT." wrote:
> 
>         Here is a planet scene I started tonight. It uses basic techniques, plus a
> not-so-basic technique for the sun's halo that I made up myself. I am happy
> with it so far, but I can't seem to dissolve the moon's shadows into the
> atmosphere. The atmosphere is part background color and part fog. Any
> suggestions?
>         I will also try to make the moons ripple down at the bottom, as if the sun
> were heating things up a bit. I already have an idea for that.
>         Any comments or questions are appreciated.
> 
> SamuelT
> 
> - Our center is often different from our outer; telling the truth is gold ~
> 
>  [Image]

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From: Johannes Hubert
Subject: Re: Atmospheric planet
Date: 23 Apr 1999 08:12:12
Message: <3720558c.0@news.povray.org>
Nice image! I like it.

SamuelT. wrote in message <01bdce43$df0ace80$4ebac998@default>...
[snip]
>with it so far, but I can't seem to dissolve the moon's shadows into the
>atmosphere. The atmosphere is part background color and part fog. Any
>suggestions?

I am not really sure what you mean with "dissolving the shadow into the
atmosphere". If you mean, that you want to see the moon's shadow in the
atmosphere, then I do have suggestion:

Don't! :-)

My reasoning: Unless the moons are so close that their gravity would
actually cause create havoc (earthquakes, constant vulcanic eruptions, etc.,
stuff not in your image ;-) I would say that it is fully correct that there
is no shadow of the moons in the atmosphere, because the shadow would simply
pass the planet.
Afer all: Shadow of the moon on the planet = solar eclipse. And in your
image the distance between moon and sun (at this angle) is simply to large
to give a shadow anyway.

So long,
Johannes.


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From: Edward Wedig
Subject: Re: Atmospheric planet
Date: 24 Apr 1999 01:20:40
Message: <372146A6.448F317E@netwalk.com>
Johannes Hubert wrote:
> 
> Nice image! I like it.
> 
> SamuelT. wrote in message <01bdce43$df0ace80$4ebac998@default>...
> [snip]
> >with it so far, but I can't seem to dissolve the moon's shadows into the
> >atmosphere. The atmosphere is part background color and part fog. Any
> >suggestions?
> 
> I am not really sure what you mean with "dissolving the shadow into the
> atmosphere". If you mean, that you want to see the moon's shadow in the
> atmosphere, then I do have suggestion:
> 
> Don't! :-)

I think what he means is that he doesn't want the dark side of the moon
to show up... kind of like our oun Moon. All he needs to do is shorten
the fog distance, or lessen the transmit or the fog, and it should work
out fine. He could also move the moons farther away and make them
larger, so that they appear the same size.

-Ed

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aka Doc Brown
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From: Edward Wedig
Subject: Re: Atmospheric planet
Date: 24 Apr 1999 01:23:18
Message: <37214743.A3DB0C1D@netwalk.com>
SamuelT. wrote:
> 
>         Here is a planet scene I started tonight. It uses basic techniques, plus a
> not-so-basic technique for the sun's halo that I made up myself. I am happy
> with it so far, but I can't seem to dissolve the moon's shadows into the
> atmosphere. The atmosphere is part background color and part fog. Any
> suggestions?

Try lowering the distance of your fog, making it more opaque closer and
(hopefully) obscuring the dark sides of your moons. Or move the moons
farther away and make then larger, so they appear the same size.

Either way, what you need is more fog between the camera and the moons.

-Ed

-- 
Edward Wedig
aka Doc Brown
Graphic Artist, 3D Designer, Gamemaster, Nice Guy
http://www.netwalk.com/~docbrown


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