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Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> Critcism welcomed as usual!
Ah, columns and arches. My favourites.
Beautiful image, but one thing bothers me: shouldn't the shape of the
water squirts be more parabolic like, than the
quater-circle-and-straight that it seems to be now?
/Ib
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Hi Hugo:
> Personally, I would give the image more dynamic compression, to
> brighten the building and the trees. Maybe the building is also a tad
> too blue and cold. On a technical note, my first interpretion was that
> not enough sunlight bounces off from the ground onto the walls, so all
> we have left is skylight. After a closer look I realize it does
> bounce, as can be seen on the snip of the building at the upper left.
Well, it has poor quality rad settings for now. Recursion limit is 1,
so the light bounces mainly from the sky. I will try 2 for the final
render, if I can't wait that long...
> But I would probably try increasing radiosity brightness and lowering
> the skylight, or just adjust the white-balance. I would also use Kari
> Kivisalos exposure control to avoid the sunlit area gets brighter than
> it already is.
I'm planning to save rad data with a much brighter light, so it will
improve the shadowed parts. If this doesn't work I must finally start
using MegaPOV...
> The building seems as much in focus as the water fountain. The space
> allocated for the building is rather big, and so the overall
> impression is dark.
Well, the camera is the same as the original scene... and I like it.
The main subject, even if the name doesn't suggest it, it's the "patio".
Thanks!
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Jaime Vives Piqueres
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:05:05 -0700
Xplo Eristotle <xpl### [at] infomagic net> wrote:
> One bit of advice I can think of: you might want to add some kind of
> texture to the palm leaves, as they look pretty bland right now and
> you can really see it in the foreground.
Yes, I think I will follow Gena advice about using hf leaves instead.
Thanks!
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Jaime Vives Piqueres
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org
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Hi JC:
> I only have one remark : the shape of the falling water doesn't seem
> physically accurate, it doesn't have enough speed to get out
> horizontally like this, it should be falling much faster.
Ah, yes... the current object is a placeholder (torus+cylinder).
> Apart from this little detail, this image is REALLY nice.
> I can feel the freshness of the shadow in this very hot spanish
> afternoon.
Thanks!
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Jaime Vives Piqueres
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 09:38:13 -0700
Gena Obukhov <obu### [at] mailcom> wrote:
> I can just recommend how to imrove your palms. Maybe it's not
> so bad for low resolution but mesh leaves will be too annoying in
> high resolution.
Thanks for all the tips! I'm just playing with them... will see soon
the result. Regards..
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Jaime Vives Piqueres
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org
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Hi Christoph:
> Looks very good although the detail level of course is not suited for
> a much larger render.
Yes, but only for the moment... :) Anyhow the final render will not be
very big. I heavily use the low resolution to hide my lazyness. :(
> It is crying out loud for being rendered in HDR
> file format though (so you can turn up the brightness and view the
> shadow parts as well). You could also render a nice light probe from
> it...
Again, I must try MegaPOV...
> The palms are double_illuminate i assume?
Of course! I think it works prety well for leaves. There is also a bit
of filter.
> BTW if you have a nicely working version of the skylight include file
> it would be great if you could share it. The one posted in p.b.s-f.
> seems to be buggy in some ways and i have not yet found the patience
> to work though all the suggestions for fixes etc. that have been
> posted in reply.
Well, I don't know if the version I have is really a "working one".
That is, I don't know if it really follows perfectly the original
algoritm. But it surely gives results very similar to the images from
the original paper.
Mine is a version revised by Ive (I've done nothing here) to use his
CIE.inc included on Lightsys. Philippe allowed it to be part of the next
Lightsys version, wich I will release soon (as always, making the docs
and examples is a real pain...).
Thanks for the comments!
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Jaime Vives Piqueres
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 09:32:13 -0600
"nobody" <nob### [at] nobodycom> wrote:
> Use parabolic paths for water (with very small horizontal velocity).
> The curent filleted-L flow is unnatural and distracting.
Yes, I think I will use a blob with slighty randomized components
following a parabolic spline... any better idea?
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Jaime Vives Piqueres
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org
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Hi Ib:
> Ah, columns and arches. My favourites.
Yes, it's a mistery why they are so attractive... I like particulary
cloister patios, as the image shows.
About the water, sorry for the crappy placeholder...
Thanks!
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Jaime Vives Piqueres
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org
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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Remake in progress (RIP? :) - 109Kb
Date: 19 Aug 2003 06:38:03
Message: <3F41FE0A.173C3CD6@gmx.de>
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Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
>
> > It is crying out loud for being rendered in HDR
> > file format though (so you can turn up the brightness and view the
> > shadow parts as well). You could also render a nice light probe from
> > it...
>
> Again, I must try MegaPOV...
Well, MP 1.0 does not help you there - still it would be an intereating
image for this. If you want to get an idea how it looks feel free to send
me the source to render it as HDR.
> [...]
>
> Mine is a version revised by Ive (I've done nothing here) to use his
> CIE.inc included on Lightsys. Philippe allowed it to be part of the next
> Lightsys version, wich I will release soon
Looking forward to it...
> (as always, making the docs
> and examples is a real pain...).
I know, currently working on the next isowood when time permits but it can
be really lots of work as soon as things are a bit more complicated.
Christoph
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Wow, very nice image Jaime! The radiosity really came out nice.
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Doug Eichenberg
www.getinfo.net/douge
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