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From: Alastair Murray
Subject: Re: slightly surreal IRTC wip
Date: 6 Apr 2003 07:13:49
Message: <3e900bed$1@news.povray.org>
By pure coincidence I happened to have the Gattaca Opening Theme by Michael
Nyman playing when I watched this, and it makes really good background music
for it!  Heh.

Alastair.



"Tekno Frannansa" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in message
news:3e8f087b@news.povray.org...
> This is a short segment from the animation I'm working on. I'm posting it
> for no more reason than that I got ADSL yesterday, so now I can upload
files
> of this size no problem! :) Oh, plus I think it looks pretty cool in a
kind
> of anime influenced way.
>
> Render time for the whole sequence was just under 2 hours on my Athlon
2200.
>
> Comments and suggestions are welcome, there's still time to change things
> before the deadline! :)
>
> --
> Tek
> http://www.evilsuperbrain.com
>
>
>


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From: Tekno Frannansa
Subject: Re: slightly surreal IRTC wip
Date: 6 Apr 2003 08:32:20
Message: <3e901e54$1@news.povray.org>
"Greg M. Johnson" <gregj;-)565### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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> This inspired me to go ahead and try one, not only  because yours is so
good
> but also at least from this segment isn't  a full-length epic.

:) cool.

I don't really thnk it's practical to attempt a lengthy animation in just 3
months and with a file size of 10 meg, so I tried to come up with an idea
that didn't take too long to put across. It still remains to be seen if I've
succeeded, but at least it's gonna look pretty! :)

--
Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


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From: Tekno Frannansa
Subject: Re: slightly surreal IRTC wip
Date: 6 Apr 2003 08:34:18
Message: <3e901eca@news.povray.org>
"Tom Galvin" <tom### [at] imporg> wrote in message
news:Xns### [at] 204213191226...
> Very Nice,  The style is what grabs me.  I look forward to the completed
> piece.

I have to confess the style was a bit of a fluke, the other segments of the
animation look more conventional than this. I'm going to try to do more
things in this style 'cause it looks very cool.

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Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


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From: Tom A 
Subject: Re: slightly surreal IRTC wip
Date: 9 Apr 2003 09:46:50
Message: <3E94244A.2010202@my-deja.com>
Tekno Frannansa wrote:
> This is a short segment from the animation I'm working on. I'm posting it
> for no more reason than that I got ADSL yesterday, so now I can upload files
> of this size no problem! :) Oh, plus I think it looks pretty cool in a kind
> of anime influenced way.
> 
> Render time for the whole sequence was just under 2 hours on my Athlon 2200.
> 
> Comments and suggestions are welcome, there's still time to change things
> before the deadline! :)

Very nice.

Now maybe you can explain how you got such _smooth_ animation in about 
half a meg.  I created 500 frames of a spaceship flyby, and got a 3 M 
movie, and it speeds by so fast you can't see the details.
(<http://www.geocities.com/meteoricshipyards/Jrny.mpg>

That's always been a problem with my movies.

Good luck in the contest.

> --
> Tek
> http://www.evilsuperbrain.com




-- 
Tom A.
"I've got the whole world
In my hands" - John, 3 year old Megalomaniac


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From: Florian Brucker
Subject: Re: slightly surreal IRTC wip
Date: 9 Apr 2003 14:36:30
Message: <3e94682e$1@news.povray.org>
hey tom

> Now maybe you can explain how you got such _smooth_ animation in about
> half a meg.  I created 500 frames of a spaceship flyby, and got a 3 M
> movie, and it speeds by so fast you can't see the details.

i'm just guessing, but did you adjust the frame rate settings in your video
encoding software (not in POV itself)?

hth,
florian


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From: Tom A 
Subject: Re: slightly surreal IRTC wip
Date: 9 Apr 2003 15:47:19
Message: <3E9478C8.5010208@my-deja.com>
Florian Brucker wrote:
> hey tom
> 
> 
>>Now maybe you can explain how you got such _smooth_ animation in about
>>half a meg.  I created 500 frames of a spaceship flyby, and got a 3 M
>>movie, and it speeds by so fast you can't see the details.
> 
> 
> i'm just guessing, but did you adjust the frame rate settings in your video
> encoding software (not in POV itself)?

For the first time, I used _avi_ to create an .avi file (at 24 frames 
per second), and then _avi2mpg_ and it (theoretically) should have kept 
the frame rate.

(Previously, I used _cmpeg_ and I ignored frame rate; to be honest, I 
don't remember if it had a parameter for it.)

> hth,
> florian
> 
> 



-- 
Tom A.
"I've got the whole world
In my hands" - John, 3 year old Megalomaniac


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: slightly surreal IRTC wip
Date: 9 Apr 2003 16:42:23
Message: <3e9485af@news.povray.org>
"Tom A." <tar### [at] my-dejacom> wrote in message
news:3E9### [at] my-dejacom...
> Now maybe you can explain how you got such _smooth_ animation in about
> half a meg.  I created 500 frames of a spaceship flyby, and got a 3 M
> movie, and it speeds by so fast you can't see the details.
> (<http://www.geocities.com/meteoricshipyards/Jrny.mpg>
>
> That's always been a problem with my movies.

I know the feeling.

So, I'll try to run through everything I do when creating an animation:

Firstly pick a frame rate. I use 25 frames per second, so I set up my pov scene
so that everything moves by 1/25th of a second on each frame. It's kinda obvious
but in your animation it looks like it's going way too fast.

Secondly, render it!

Then I use the freeware version of TMPGenc to encode it: http://www.tmpgenc.com/

When encoding it you need to check a -lot- of settings:
    Make sure the dimensions of the animation match your frames (most encoders
will get this right).
    Set the frame rate to the one you want.
    Now choose the encoding settings...

I spent ages (well over 1 hour) trying out different compression settings, and
eventually settled on these ones. They're not great (the ship leaves a bit of a
trail against the sky), but it works okay. The setting I use is "Constant
Quality", with quality set to 50% and default settings for everything else.

I think that covers everything. If you're still having problems just ask :)

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Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


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From: Ross Litscher
Subject: Re: slightly surreal IRTC wip
Date: 10 Apr 2003 16:35:12
Message: <3e95d580@news.povray.org>
thats very cool. its funny someone mentioned the music they were listening
to. I was listening to Umbilical by mazzy star which is kind of droney/moody
and it wen't very well with the colors.

good work man. also, the mountains reminded me of cover art on Radiohead's
"Kid A"


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: slightly surreal IRTC wip
Date: 10 Apr 2003 18:32:02
Message: <3e95f0e2@news.povray.org>
Ooh yeah, I see what you mean. Definitely reminiscent of the stuff on Kid A.

Glad you like it :)

--
Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


"Ross Litscher" <lit### [at] osuedu> wrote in message
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> thats very cool. its funny someone mentioned the music they were listening
> to. I was listening to Umbilical by mazzy star which is kind of droney/moody
> and it wen't very well with the colors.
>
> good work man. also, the mountains reminded me of cover art on Radiohead's
> "Kid A"
>
>


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From: Andrew Coppin
Subject: Re: slightly surreal IRTC wip
Date: 13 Apr 2003 04:10:55
Message: <3e991b8f$1@news.povray.org>
Well, I'm bloody impressed! ("Man, if I could create a single frame like
that...", etc etc) It never ceases to amaze me what's possible with
POV-Ray... All I ever make is variouse random geometric shapes..

Thanks.
Andrew.


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