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On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 15:37:33 +0200, "Hugo" <hua### [at] post3 teledk> wrote:
> I just wonder how you managed to animate the body?
I wonder what is the gender of "it" ;-)
ABX
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> Well, I don't have any reference anims to judge the quality.. This is mostly
> textures on a low-poly shape. It probably looks pretty similar to real-time
> rendering.. I just wonder how you managed to animate the body?
This is true and neither the model nor the textures are made by me, as
mentioned they are from a game called Quake3Arena.
When pov35 beta was out I found no converter for the modelformat which
is used by the game that kept the uv's for a mesh2 object so I wrote a
simple one. (I liked some of the game's artwork and wanted to use it in pov)
While reading about the modelformat I recognized that animation plays a
major role (it's a fast game :-) ) so I tried to convert the animation
data as well.
This animation is just the result of the playaround.
(By the way it used Pov's spline function to interpolate the meshframes,
great stuff!)
Regards,
Sebastian H.
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> I tried to convert the animation data as well.
> (By the way it used Pov's spline function to interpolate the
> meshframes, great stuff!)
Now THAT is interesting! Do you think it could work on a dense polygon
shape? I can imagine it's relative easy to isolate the vertices in a
low-poly shape and animate them (maybe all vertices simply get a new value
from your file, for each frame?)
If you could make it work with a selection of key-vertices, interpolated
with the rest of polygons, I'd say here goes the next "Rune" ... hehe, I
mean, you're playing on a high level, then. :o)
Regards,
Hugo
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Me too. But maybe this is Michael Jackson in his spare time practicing his
moonwalk?
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Rune, do you play Quake3Arena?
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Apache wrote:
> Rune, do you play Quake3Arena?
Nope. I don't play much in general. I'm curious, why are you asking? :)
Rune
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3D images and anims, include files, tutorials and more:
rune|vision: http://runevision.com (updated July 12)
POV-Ray Ring: http://webring.povray.co.uk
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Hugo wrote:
>> I tried to convert the animation data as well.
>> (By the way it used Pov's spline function to interpolate the
>> meshframes, great stuff!)
>
> Now THAT is interesting!
I agree. It looks nice. :)
> If you could make it work with a selection of
> key-vertices, interpolated with the rest of
> polygons, I'd say here goes the next "Rune"
> ... hehe, I mean, you're playing on a high level, then. :o)
I agree it's very well done, but I'd like to point out that the things
I'm working on are of a bit different kind I think.
Sebastian, if I understand correctly, is working on converting and
interpolating model data and animation data already created with
external utilities. Creating an animation from scratch will still
require you to have that utility that is used to create the animation
data.
My own experiments on the other hand have been minded more towards being
able to create animations from inside POV-Ray. My biggest problem is
that I haven't found a method to deform a mesh to follow a set of
bones... :(
If I could do that, it would be possible to use any mesh, and animate it
from inside POV-Ray, but I haven't had any success on that yet...
Rune
--
3D images and anims, include files, tutorials and more:
rune|vision: http://runevision.com (updated July 12)
POV-Ray Ring: http://webring.povray.co.uk
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Hugo schrieb:
>>I tried to convert the animation data as well.
>>(By the way it used Pov's spline function to interpolate the
>>meshframes, great stuff!)
>
>
> Now THAT is interesting! Do you think it could work on a dense polygon
> shape? I can imagine it's relative easy to isolate the vertices in a
> low-poly shape and animate them (maybe all vertices simply get a new value
> from your file, for each frame?)
The interpolation is quite easy:
Every animation (here it's the "walk" animation) consits of several
keyframes which it runs through.
A keyframe holds the information of every vertex of the model (and the
tags but they're just vectors, too).
Now you have the animation time and you know the time difference between
the keyframes:
...4....5....6....7....8....9....10....11...
A
| Animation time is here between keyframe 5 and 6
The vertices are stored in an array, to do the interpolation you load
the keyframes 1,2,3 and 4.
For every Vertex you create a cubic spline through these four
keypositions and read it's value at the specific time.
Some Pseudocode:
(vv means vertex vector)
vv_X is an array that holds all vertices where X is the number of the
Keyframe and cvar is the number of the current vertex.
#declare S=
spline {
cubic_spline
-1.0, vv_4[cvar]
0.0, vv_5[cvar]
1.0, vv_6[cvar]
2.0, vv_7[cvar]
}
In the example the time is 3/5 on the way between keyframe 5 and 6 so
you get your interpolated vertex vector from the spline with:
#local interpolated_vertex_vector = (S(3/5));
All this is done by a macro which you only have to give the frame
numbers and the time difference to (this one is wrapped by an other
macro...) so it works with every animation.
From an include file:
#macro md3_cub_int (FRAME0, FRAME1, FRAME2, FRAME3, DIF)
.
.
#end
(md3 is the name of the modelformat Quake3 uses)
>
> If you could make it work with a selection of key-vertices, interpolated
> with the rest of polygons, I'd say here goes the next "Rune" ... hehe, I
> mean, you're playing on a high level, then. :o)
>
Hmm this is nothing special. It's a common way to use different spline
types for vertex interpolation. But thanks! ;-)
Oh now I get it! You mean to interpolate the polygons to increase the
triangle resolution of the shape. Shouldn't be that difficult, could be
done with the normal vector....
Some hardware OpenGL implemetations do this if I remeber right and
wasn't there someone who did it for the pov smooth triangle?
Regards,
Sebastian
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"Rune" wrote:
> My own experiments on the other hand have been minded more towards being
> able to create animations from inside POV-Ray. My biggest problem is
> that I haven't found a method to deform a mesh to follow a set of
> bones... :(
What is your problem? To get the mesh data into format that can be used
with POV's file io? You could write an external utility to do that. Or
deforming the mesh data? I want to know because I'm really intrested in
animating meshes with POV-Ray.
Simon
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>
> I agree. It looks nice. :)
>
Thanks :-)
> I agree it's very well done, but I'd like to point out that the things
> I'm working on are of a bit different kind I think.
>
> Sebastian, if I understand correctly, is working on converting and
> interpolating model data and animation data already created with
> external utilities. Creating an animation from scratch will still
> require you to have that utility that is used to create the animation
> data.
Thats right, the actual work has to be done somewhere else :-(
> My own experiments on the other hand have been minded more towards being
> able to create animations from inside POV-Ray. My biggest problem is
> that I haven't found a method to deform a mesh to follow a set of
> bones... :(
> If I could do that, it would be possible to use any mesh, and animate it
> from inside POV-Ray, but I haven't had any success on that yet...
>
Thats a very interesting idea!!!
There was a similar problem when trying to glue the crash model
together. It consits of three parts, head, torso and legs. They all have
so called "tags", on these there can be attached other models so it's a
kind of "three bone" system.
I think the Pov-language with it's limitations will make it a mess to
create a more complex bonetree. There is a lack of structures like the
c++ "class" or "struct" which one can fill with data, access by it's
type or link anyhow. Maybe there's a workaround...
Regards,
Sebastian H.
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