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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Gloop - Another Realflow anim
Date: 29 Apr 2002 12:46:08
Message: <3CCD78A2.849B6B59@gmx.de>
You know, when I saw the "original" metal-on-sphere
animation on the RealFlow website, I thought it looked
like "newbie-style-yet-advanced-animation".

Yours looks much better than theirs!

So, just a guess:
Have you already written a small executable
which "converts" the particle-data to "POV-Format",
or still a hand-done-job?
And, sadly, I'm a Purist-Pover, so I'll probably not
be able to at least try your stuff (no LightWave or
such availabe for scenes...)


Andrew Cocker wrote:

> I'm in the process of putting together a tutorial of my realflow2POV
> technique for the soon to be re-launched povray.co.uk, and I thought the
> resulting anim was worth posting, if only for the gorgeous way the liquid
> gold sticks to the sphere as it falls.
>
> Sorry, sorry sorry.... still not my own particle system ;-)

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From: Andrew Cocker
Subject: Re: Gloop - Another Realflow anim
Date: 29 Apr 2002 13:16:53
Message: <3ccd8005@news.povray.org>
"Tim Nikias" <tim### [at] gmxde> wrote in message
news:3CCD78A2.849B6B59@gmx.de...
> You know, when I saw the "original" metal-on-sphere
> animation on the RealFlow website, I thought it looked
> like "newbie-style-yet-advanced-animation".
>
> Yours looks much better than theirs!

Thanks. It's actually using mainly default parameters, as I just wanted
something I could design and render quickly.

> So, just a guess:
> Have you already written a small executable
> which "converts" the particle-data to "POV-Format",
> or still a hand-done-job?

I can't write an executable.. I wouldn't know where to start, but I would
*really* like one. At the moment my tutorial relies on using TextPipePro,
the evaluation version of which is due to expire any day now, and then I'll
be unable to continue (it's expensive!!).

> And, sadly, I'm a Purist-Pover, so I'll probably not
> be able to at least try your stuff (no LightWave or
> such availabe for scenes...)

It doesn't actually require Lightwave... just Lightwave format (or .dxf,
or.obj) meshes.. so any little modeler may suffice.

All the best,

Andy Cocker


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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Gloop - Another Realflow anim
Date: 29 Apr 2002 15:03:33
Message: <3ccd9905@news.povray.org>
Andrew Cocker <big### [at] mariner9fsnetcouk> wrote:
> I'm in the process of putting together a tutorial of my realflow2POV
> technique for the soon to be re-launched povray.co.uk, and I thought
> the resulting anim was worth posting, if only for the gorgeous way
> the liquid gold sticks to the sphere as it falls.

Gloop!

:)


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From: Mark James Lewin
Subject: Re: Gloop - Another Realflow anim
Date: 29 Apr 2002 18:04:05
Message: <3CCDBFF3.3A3512AF@yahoo.com.au>
Nice. The goop seems unnaturally stiff as it falls off the sphere though.

MJL


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From: Apache
Subject: Re: Gloop - Another Realflow anim
Date: 29 Apr 2002 21:06:10
Message: <3ccdee02$1@news.povray.org>
I guess the RealFlow copy you're using now is a trial version? Or is it free
to use software?

Oh, man! I should finish that cloth thing, because it is able to simulate
yello, deformable cubes. (If I ever find the time to work on it!!!)

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From: Andrew Cocker
Subject: Re: Gloop - Another Realflow anim
Date: 30 Apr 2002 07:33:36
Message: <3cce8110$1@news.povray.org>
"Apache" <apa### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
news:3ccdee02$1@news.povray.org...
> I guess the RealFlow copy you're using now is a trial version? Or is it
free
> to use software?

Am using a registered version on a friend's PC... no it's not free, but the
demo *may* be fully functional... (I should know that I suppose..)

>
> Oh, man! I should finish that cloth thing, because it is able to simulate
> yello, deformable cubes. (If I ever find the time to work on it!!!)

Please do... if the POV code is there, I'll use it over other software.

Andy


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From: Hugo
Subject: Re: Gloop - Another Realflow anim
Date: 30 Apr 2002 07:40:22
Message: <3cce82a6@news.povray.org>
> Oh, man! I should finish that cloth thing, because it is able to simulate
> yello, deformable cubes. (If I ever find the time to work on it!!!)

Yes please do so! I'd rather want to see these physical laws coded into POV
instead of having all those other programs, freeware or not.. I realize I'm
"biased" when it comes to my favourite raytracer, but I honestly think these
are important features to have inside POV (first via SDL and one day: C) and
allows for much more usability in custom scenes.

Apache: Hmm, you know Rune is working on a particle system too and will
release it soon.. Are the principles in yours similar, have you tried to
cooperate, or do you compete?

I like the golden texture and "snowy" movement...

Regards,
Hugo


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From: Andrew Cocker
Subject: Re: Gloop - Another Realflow anim
Date: 30 Apr 2002 07:42:20
Message: <3cce831c@news.povray.org>
Just checked, and the demo *is* fully functional for 30 days.
www.nextlimit.com

Andy


"Andrew Cocker" <big### [at] mariner9fsnetcouk> wrote in message
news:3cce8110$1@news.povray.org...
>
> "Apache" <apa### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
> news:3ccdee02$1@news.povray.org...
> > I guess the RealFlow copy you're using now is a trial version? Or is it
> free
> > to use software?
>
> Am using a registered version on a friend's PC... no it's not free, but
the
> demo *may* be fully functional... (I should know that I suppose..)
>
> >
> > Oh, man! I should finish that cloth thing, because it is able to
simulate
> > yello, deformable cubes. (If I ever find the time to work on it!!!)
>
> Please do... if the POV code is there, I'll use it over other software.
>
> Andy
>
>


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Gloop - Another Realflow anim
Date: 30 Apr 2002 14:54:31
Message: <3ccee867@news.povray.org>
Hugo wrote:
> Apache: Hmm, you know Rune is working on a particle
> system too and will release it soon.. Are the principles
> in yours similar, have you tried to cooperate, or do you compete?

My particle system is completely different and doesn't have support for
inter-particle interaction. Integration of the two systems would most
likely be impossible.

BTW Andrew, very nice Realflow animation, but the material looks very
strange. The "behavior" is as if the material is very thick and sticky,
but yet it leaves the sphere completely clean. I would expect a thin
layer of the material to stick to the sphere.

Rune
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From: Andrew Cocker
Subject: Re: Gloop - Another Realflow anim
Date: 30 Apr 2002 16:11:42
Message: <3ccefa7e@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <run### [at] mobilixnetdk> wrote in message
news:3ccee867@news.povray.org...
> BTW Andrew, very nice Realflow animation, but the material looks very
> strange. The "behavior" is as if the material is very thick and sticky,
> but yet it leaves the sphere completely clean. I would expect a thin
> layer of the material to stick to the sphere.

Well, I also devised a non-stick texture for my sphere, of course. ;-)

But yes, you are quite correct... these are the default 'liquid' settings,
but in this case behaved more like gloop. But hey, I'm no Realflow expert
;-)

Andy Cocker


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