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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: What has 8 legs & stinging tail? [~454K Mpg]
Date: 14 Sep 2000 04:30:01
Message: <39c08c89@news.povray.org>
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Scorpions!
Same thing as before almost, but the model has changed and there are more of
them too.
Sorry about the mislabel before, I called the MPG a JPG in the last subject
line of the previous posting here.
Bob
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Bob Hughes wrote:
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> Scorpions!
> Same thing as before almost, but the model has changed and there are more of
> them too.
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Looks good, although i never saw a living real one, so i can't judge :-)
Maybe the tail should move like the arms do.
I really start hating your ground texture ...
Christoph
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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: What has 8 legs & stinging tail? [~454K Mpg]
Date: 14 Sep 2000 06:26:45
Message: <39c0a7e5@news.povray.org>
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"Christoph Hormann" <Chr### [at] schunteretctu-bsde> wrote in
message news:39C098C5.584F04B6@schunter.etc.tu-bs.de...
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| Looks good, although i never saw a living real one, so i can't judge :-)
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| Maybe the tail should move like the arms do.
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| I really start hating your ground texture ...
Awful isn't it? :-)
Well, I have one encased in acrylic I got while at Grand Canyon. However I
also have many of a smaller chocolate brown colored variety getting indoors
all the time here too in northern Alabama. Plenty to base the model on.
Their tails actually lay flat behind them usually, it's only when they're
eating something or being caught by me that their tails curl up. Might be
different for others of the species or other times when I don't see them.
The arms do move a little but they tend to hold them fairly steady as they
move, not very different from the way I animated them. The colors of the
legs and arms is most wrong, too yellow there, more of a transparent light
grayish-tan instead; those I see alive that is, the SW one is more yellow
overall with brown body. Same for the underside of the body, a grayish tan.
Btw, the live ones I have around here are a mere 2 inches, the one from the
SW is probably more like 5 inches (claw arms and tails included).
I'm on a rocky hillside and I saw many under the rocks as I made a bit of
landscaping. However I researched a little on them once and seems there are
even kinds that live around buildings (no kidding), small and dark brown
too, if I remember right.
Bob
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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: What has 8 legs & stinging tail? [~454K Mpg]
Date: 14 Sep 2000 08:01:39
Message: <39c0be23@news.povray.org>
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"Bob Hughes" <per### [at] aolcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote :
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> However I researched a little on them once and seems there are
> even kinds that live around buildings (no kidding), small and dark brown
> too, if I remember right.
We have those, about 1" and almost transparent brown. They seem to want
to live on my porch. Sting feels like a wasp. I have a friend with a
collection of scorpions. Some of them have much larger claws. Some have a
kind of tail that kind of collapses down to ride on their back while others
drag their tail behind.
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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: What has 8 legs & stinging tail? [~454K Mpg]
Date: 14 Sep 2000 08:21:41
Message: <39c0c2d5$1@news.povray.org>
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Nice!
But I think a scorpion has 10 legs. Well, yours has anyway.
(Those things in the front, I don't know how you call it in English, are
legs too! They're more evolved than the other ones, but they are legs.)
ZK
http://www.povplace.be.tf
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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: What has 8 legs & stinging tail? [~454K Mpg]
Date: 14 Sep 2000 08:38:45
Message: <39c0c6d5$1@news.povray.org>
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"Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
news:39c0c2d5$1@news.povray.org...
> Nice!
> But I think a scorpion has 10 legs.
Well, it should have 8 legs plus the claws. But the interesting thing about
insects and arachnids is that they have legs for mouths and legs for sex
organs and legs for lungs and legs for antennae and legs for eyes (using a
wide definition for 'legs')
The site...
http://www.york.biosis.org/zrdocs/zoolinfo/zoolinfo.htm
...has good pictures at the link below...
http://www.york.biosis.org/zrdocs/zoolinfo/grp_arac.htm#Scorpiones
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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: What has 8 legs & stinging tail? [~454K Mpg]
Date: 14 Sep 2000 11:01:46
Message: <39c0e85a@news.povray.org>
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"Bill DeWitt" <the### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message
news:39c0c6d5$1@news.povray.org...
| "Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
| news:39c0c2d5$1@news.povray.org...
| > But I think a scorpion has 10 legs.
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| Well, it should have 8 legs plus the claws. But the interesting thing
about
| insects and arachnids is that they have legs for mouths and legs for sex
| organs and legs for lungs and legs for antennae and legs for eyes (using a
| wide definition for 'legs')
Or creepy, guess it depends on your point of view.
| http://www.york.biosis.org/zrdocs/zoolinfo/zoolinfo.htm
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| ...has good pictures at the link below...
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| http://www.york.biosis.org/zrdocs/zoolinfo/grp_arac.htm#Scorpiones
This was a great reference to see, thanks Bill. I found only one that
looked similar enough to the ones I see around here:
http://wrbu.si.edu/www/stockwell/photos/v_globosus.jpg
It's too glossy though. Would need to be duller and more brown on the body,
tail, and forelimbs(?); I couldn't call those legs since they act more like
arms with claw hands.
Far as numbers of things go I was counting tail and body segments on all the
pictures I looked at and they remain the same for each kind. 6 for the tail
and 7 for the body (less 1 for the head I guess), and even though they all
look about the same their sizes and shapes of tails and claws vary a lot.
Really interesting stuff. In a way.
I was way off on the leg orientations, need to lay flatter to the ground.
Bob
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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: What has 8 legs & stinging tail? [~454K Mpg]
Date: 14 Sep 2000 14:46:17
Message: <39c11cf9$1@news.povray.org>
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Bill DeWitt <the### [at] earthlinknet> schreef in berichtnieuws
39c0c6d5$1@news.povray.org...
> "Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
> news:39c0c2d5$1@news.povray.org...
> > Nice!
> > But I think a scorpion has 10 legs.
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> Well, it should have 8 legs plus the claws. But the interesting thing
about
> insects and arachnids is that they have legs for mouths and legs for sex
> organs and legs for lungs and legs for antennae and legs for eyes (using a
> wide definition for 'legs')
I was tought (sp?) that those claws were legs, like our arms. Should I sue
the teacher?
ZK
http://www.povplace.be.tf
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Zeger Knaepen wrote:
> I was tought (sp?)
Taught.
> that those claws were legs, like our arms.
Legs <=> Arms ???
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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: What has 8 legs & stinging tail? [~454K Mpg]
Date: 14 Sep 2000 15:59:11
Message: <39c12e0f$1@news.povray.org>
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Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> schreef in berichtnieuws
39C121B4.D3DA8C51@pacbell.net...
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> Zeger Knaepen wrote:
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> > I was tought (sp?)
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> Taught.
Whatever... :-)
> > that those claws were legs, like our arms.
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> Legs <=> Arms ???
OK, can someone translate this for me? I don't know how to express myself
in English, so I'll do it in Dutch.
Schorpioenen (krabben en kreeften trouwens ook) hebben geen 8 poten, maar
10. Het voorste paar poten (de zogenaamde 'scharen') zijn te vergelijken
met onze armen (we lopen niet op onze armen, maar dieren lopen wel op het
equivalent van armen).
Maybe I could say this in English, but I'm a bit tired now
ZK
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