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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: My apartment (675K)
Date: 20 Feb 2000 21:37:28
Message: <38b0a4e8@news.povray.org>
what did you convert to mpeg with and what setting did your render from
within the anim plug at ??

Rick


"Mikael Carneholm" <sa9### [at] idautbhbse> wrote in message
news:38B020BE.1D246341@ida.utb.hb.se...
> Hi;
>
> This is my somewhat sparsely furnished apartment, or at least - a
> virtual version. Modeled in 3D Home, textured/animated/rendered in Moray
> using POV-Ray. It suffers quite hard from MPEG compression, but it had
> to be done in order to keep the size down. Note: it was mostly a test of
> the animation plugin, that's why I haven't put so much work on the
> lightning/detailing/texturing.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Mikael Carneholm
> Dep. of Computer Science and Business Administration

>
> Personal homepage:
> http://www.studenter.hb.se/~arch
> E-mail:
> sa9### [at] idautbhbse
>
>


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From: Mikael Carneholm
Subject: Re: My apartment (675K)
Date: 21 Feb 2000 03:46:38
Message: <38B0FB52.24470561@ida.utb.hb.se>
"Rick [Kitty5]" wrote:

> what did you convert to mpeg with and what setting did your render from
> within the anim plug at ??

I rendered at 24 fps within Moray, generating separate TGA images. Those were
compressed into AVI with Fast Movie Processor (Radius codec) and then
converted to mpeg with avi2mpg1 (at 15bytes/s). If I was more accustomed to
cmpeg I would have used it, as there is some quality loss in each step in the
current procedure (I guess).

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Mikael Carneholm
Dep. of Computer Science and Business Administration


Personal homepage:
http://www.studenter.hb.se/~arch
E-mail:
sa9### [at] idautbhbse


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From: Sander
Subject: Re: My apartment (675K)
Date: 21 Feb 2000 05:52:12
Message: <38b118dc@news.povray.org>
Have you seen and tried my Windows frontend to CMPEG at http://stols.net ?

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Regards,
Sander


Mikael Carneholm <sa9### [at] idautbhbse> schreef in berichtnieuws
38B0FB52.24470561@ida.utb.hb.se...
> "Rick [Kitty5]" wrote:
> I rendered at 24 fps within Moray, generating separate TGA images. Those
were
> compressed into AVI with Fast Movie Processor (Radius codec) and then
> converted to mpeg with avi2mpg1 (at 15bytes/s). If I was more accustomed
to
> cmpeg I would have used it, as there is some quality loss in each step in
the
> current procedure (I guess).


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From: Markus Becker
Subject: Re: My apartment (675K)
Date: 21 Feb 2000 07:21:57
Message: <38B12E3D.88C356AB@student.uni-siegen.de>
Mikael Carneholm wrote:
> 
> This is my somewhat sparsely furnished apartment, or at least - a
> virtual version. Modeled in 3D Home, textured/animated/rendered in Moray

What's 3D-Home?

Markus


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From: Mikael Carneholm
Subject: Re: My apartment (675K)
Date: 21 Feb 2000 07:23:27
Message: <38B12E3D.913B77A1@ida.utb.hb.se>
Sander wrote:

> Have you seen and tried my Windows frontend to CMPEG at http://stols.net ?

Yes, but not the latest version (I believe there was an older version which was
incapable of long file names?). I will try it for my next version of the
apartment animation, when I'm not in a hurry to get it out the door ;-)

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Mikael Carneholm
Dep. of Computer Science and Business Administration


Personal homepage:
http://www.studenter.hb.se/~arch
E-mail:
sa9### [at] idautbhbse


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From: Mikael Carneholm
Subject: Re: My apartment (675K)
Date: 21 Feb 2000 07:34:57
Message: <38B130EF.49EDB12B@ida.utb.hb.se>
Markus Becker wrote:

>
> What's 3D-Home?
>

I believe that was the name of the program - '3d home' or '3d home architect'
or something like that; I used it on a friends computer during the christmas
holiday and exported a .dxf file which I brought home on a ZIP disk. It was
however very easy to model the apartment, just click & draw to make the walls
and lots of ready-made furniture to place in the drawing. If you want, I can
ask him what the exact name of the program was.

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Mikael Carneholm
Dep. of Computer Science and Business Administration


Personal homepage:
http://www.studenter.hb.se/~arch
E-mail:
sa9### [at] idautbhbse


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From: David Parrott
Subject: Re: My apartment (675K)
Date: 21 Feb 2000 20:05:49
Message: <cnbSECAonJs4IwRX@quayles1.demon.co.uk>
In article <38B020BE.1D246341@ida.utb.hb.se>, Mikael Carneholm
<sa9### [at] idautbhbse> writes
>Hi;
>
>This is my somewhat sparsely furnished apartment, or at least - a
>virtual version. Modeled in 3D Home, textured/animated/rendered in Moray
>using POV-Ray. It suffers quite hard from MPEG compression, but it had
>to be done in order to keep the size down. Note: it was mostly a test of
>the animation plugin, that's why I haven't put so much work on the
>lightning/detailing/texturing.
>
>
>[ A MIME video / mpeg part was included here. ]
>

WOW, I haven't looked at Moray or the animation plugin but I may now
have to. I have though about doing something like this a few times but
it always seemed like a huge project to do so I never started it. How
did you get the great camera movement. Reminds me of the rendered
movement from 7th Guest.
-- 
  David Parrott    E-mail: xam### [at] quayles1demoncouk
                      ICQ: 13313977
                  Website: On it's way


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From: Mikael Carneholm
Subject: Re: My apartment (675K)
Date: 21 Feb 2000 20:40:39
Message: <38B1E90D.5F2FB428@ida.utb.hb.se>
David Parrott wrote:

> it always seemed like a huge project to do so I never started it. How
> did you get the great camera movement.

Just pointing and clicking....using the cubic interpolation of the animation
plugin, this is what it looks like. It's "classical" key framing - i.e., you
just pose the camera as it should be at a certain frame, and the
interpolation will take care of the rest.

I really recommend Moray....it is starting to look really, really good! (IMHO
- but then, I'm also a registered user! =) )

----------------------------------------------------
Mikael Carneholm
Dep. of Computer Science and Business Administration


Personal homepage:
http://www.studenter.hb.se/~arch
E-mail:
sa9### [at] idautbhbse


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From: Sander
Subject: Re: My apartment (675K)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 07:03:29
Message: <38b27b11@news.povray.org>
Hmm...

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Regards,
Sander


Serge LAROCQUE <sgl### [at] hotmailcom> schreef in berichtnieuws
38B24E3B.DF727905@hotmail.com...
> Here is the step-by-step way of using cmpeg:
>
> 1. make a folder called 'creation' (or whatever, just a place where you
keep a
> copy of cmpeg.exe and *.ctl files, so you don't delete your originals
>:-/ )
>
> 2. move all your targa image files into that directory
>
> 3. start a DOS session; cd into the above directory;
>
> 4. dir /b /on file???.tga > name.txt
>     example:  orbit01.tga, orbit02.tga.... orbit10.tga --> orbit??.tga
>
> 5. cmpeg -v1 -f2 ipb.ctl name.txt anyname.mpg
> v1 means level 1 verbosity, f2 means 24 fps
> ipb.ctl is a parameter file, you can replace with i.ctl, pvrg.ctl.
pvrg.ctl seems
> to give better quality, with slightly larger file
>
> 6. done!
>


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From: Sander
Subject: Re: My apartment (675K)
Date: 23 Feb 2000 16:16:52
Message: <38b44e44@news.povray.org>
Yes, I agree, that is a little unusual, too pedantic perhaps. I will
consider removing this.
Thanks for your constructive criticism.

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Regards,
Sander


Serge LAROCQUE <sgl### [at] hotmailcom> schreef in berichtnieuws
38B### [at] hotmailcom...
> Ah, I see now, you're writing the cmpeg front-end :)) I'm not competing
> with you, just explaining a little.
>
> In fact, I tried CMPG and it's ok, I didn't like the fact that when you
> click on the button for the filelist, then it won't let you out when you
> click on cancel.
>
> @+
>


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