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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: POV-Ray for Windows, version 3.5 RC2 expired early, and there is no replacement at the moment
Date: 29 Apr 2002 23:38:29
Message: <tP=NPKtv2=0YjpSMnVDHZigmk4+1@4ax.com>
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On 29 Apr 2002 17:57:42 -0400, ingo <ing### [at] home nl> wrote:
>YES, it would stop all these pathetic whiners stop whining, I hope....
>Sorry but all this nonsense postings about a beta being somewhat late
>realy pisses me off.
>Ingo
So you are fighting your perceived "whiners" by doing some whining
yourself? I'm sure that will help everyone a lot.
As for my post being "nonsense", it was perfectly coherent and
intelligible.
There was no whining in my post whatsoever, only a simple question.
Chris was quick to respond, and did so with a very helpful attitude. I
then thanked him for the help, and wished him good luck with the beta
process. There was no whining in that exchange whatsoever.
Perhaps language isn't your natural mode of communication? Would
3D-rendered hand gestures be more informative for you? One in
particular comes to mind for this occasion...
I *do not* appreciate being called "pathetic", especially when my post
only asked for simple information as to the exact nature of the POV
beta expiration. I thought if I knew exactly when the betas would
expire, it would be less likely to take me by surprise in fhe future.
If that pisses you off, then so be it. I'm not responsible if you
can't mainatin control over your bodily finctions.
Later,
Glen
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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: POV-Ray for Windows, version 3.5 RC2 expired early, and there is no replacement at the moment
Date: 30 Apr 2002 02:05:40
Message: <3CCE3434.875CB2A0@gmx.de>
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Glen Berry wrote:
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> So you are fighting your perceived "whiners" by doing some whining
> yourself? I'm sure that will help everyone a lot.
>
> As for my post being "nonsense", it was perfectly coherent and
> intelligible.
>
> [...]
I think we probably should calm down a bit. Ingo probably did not adress
you in particular with his post but the continuing whining about the beta
expiry after your question was answered.
And BTW RC3 is available now.
Christoph
--
POV-Ray tutorials, IsoWood include,
TransSkin and more: http://www.tu-bs.de/~y0013390/
Last updated 26 Apr. 2002 _____./\/^>_*_<^\/\.______
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 13:58:41 +1000, "Chris Cason"
<new### [at] deletethispovrayorg> wrote:
> Sorry, we have a hitch and won't be releasing RC3 for at least another 8
> hours.
Any chance to share knowladge what happened ? If it is something around
metodology of development it could increase experience of other teams.
ABX
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From: ingo
Subject: Re: POV-Ray for Windows, version 3.5 RC2 expired early, and there is no replacement at the moment
Date: 30 Apr 2002 03:43:17
Message: <Xns9200635A5A627seed7@povray.org>
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in news:3CCE3434.875CB2A0@gmx.de Christoph Hormann wrote:
> Ingo probably did not adress
> you in particular with his post but the continuing whining about the
> beta expiry after your question was answered.
That's exactly what it was about.
> And BTW RC3 is available now.
Now let's have some fun again,
Ingo
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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: POV-Ray for Windows, version 3.5 RC2 expired early, and there is no replacement at the moment
Date: 30 Apr 2002 04:59:03
Message: <3cce5cd7$1@news.povray.org>
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news:ogdscu89hrficpjq7bema2nu0gboog203p@4ax.com...
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> Any chance to share knowladge what happened ? If it is something around
> metodology of development it could increase experience of other teams.
>
plus we're really nosey....
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From: Tom A
Subject: Re: POV-Ray for Windows, version 3.5 RC2 expired early, and there is no replacement at the moment
Date: 30 Apr 2002 10:57:42
Message: <3CCEB0E6.4AF1A12A@my-deja.com>
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ingo wrote:
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> One would realy expect that raytracing would have learned people some
> patience, but it seems to be the opposite.
LOL!
I think it taught me too much patience. Last night I let a picture
parse for about half an hour before I realized I had an infinite loop.
"D'oh! Stupid missing #end" - not Homer Simpson
>
> Ingo
--
Tom A.
There's nothing like cooking and eating outside, unless you like
comfort. - Henny Youngman
Deja mail is gone. Look for me at raugost at yahoo . com
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From: Mike Williams
Subject: POV-Ray for Windows, version 3.5 RC2 expired early, and there is no replacement at the moment
Date: 30 Apr 2002 13:04:21
Message: <H2OqQCAwLkz8EwzR@econym.demon.co.uk>
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Having previously worked in several software houses, I think that the
team has done a brilliant job of hitting their software deadline 17
times, and only missing by one day once. We used to miss about half of
our software deadlines. There'd be somebody who decided to put in a tiny
last minute change that caused the entire package to fail to compile
correctly.
--
Mike Williams
Gentleman of Leisure
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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: POV-Ray for Windows, version 3.5 RC2 expired early, and there is no replacement at the moment
Date: 30 Apr 2002 16:57:39
Message: <BATPPM3JveBUIqF17Oqw2r895EdN@4ax.com>
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:08:32 +0100, Mike Williams <mik### [at] nospamplease>
wrote:
>Having previously worked in several software houses, I think that the
>team has done a brilliant job of hitting their software deadline 17
>times, and only missing by one day once.
Yes, the POV-Team is pretty darn good at what they do. There's no
question about that. I just wish that the quality level of POV would
somehow rub off on the quality level of the operating system I use to
run it. :)
Later,
Glen
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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: POV-Ray for Windows, version 3.5 RC2 expired early, and there is no replacement at the moment
Date: 1 May 2002 07:32:10
Message: <3CCFD20A.D1DCCBE3@gmx.de>
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Yeah, really nosey.
Tom Melly wrote:
> plus we're really nosey....
--
Tim Nikias
Homepage: http://www.digitaltwilight.de/no_lights/index.html
Email: Tim### [at] gmxde
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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: POV-Ray for Windows, version 3.5 RC2 expired early, and there is no replacement at the moment
Date: 1 May 2002 11:36:45
Message: <3cd00b8d@news.povray.org>
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"Tim Nikias" <tim### [at] gmxde> wrote in message news:3CCFD20A.D1DCCBE3@gmx.de...
> Yeah, really nosey.
>
> Tom Melly wrote:
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> > plus we're really nosey....
I really needed to get some certain code that I am awaiting into this RC, as
the time for testing is running out, and this code needs to be well-tested.
The folks supplying the code initial promised it early Monday (my time), and
then that slipped, and it slipped again, and finally we decided to just release
the RC without the code.
When it turns up I'll make an EXE-only release with it built in, and just
hope enough folks download it to make it well-tested before the next RC.
-- Chris
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