Relax - I have not made mention of the audio-interface here, since
this is a graphics-related newsgroup.

"Slime" <slm### [at] slimelandcom> wrote in message
news:3f2e9a80$1@news.povray.org...
> > I require a routine for a security application I am writing.  My
> > application requires users to choose a password which consists
> > of 2 things:
> > 1. a traditional alphanumeric secret password
> > 2. a chosen picture
>
> One thing that bothers me about this, and that you might want to keep in
> mind, is that this security system will be completely inaccessible to
blind
> users.
>
>  - Slime
> [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
>
>

Post a reply to this message

Correction - crosposting to 4 or more groups gets rejected (not 3
or more as I said in my last post)

Amusingly - here is your guideline which I admit I did not read first:-

  The News Server Administration will delete any messages that they
feel are excessively cross-posted without warning to discourage this
type of activity. Excessive cross-posting may be considered messages
that are posted to more than 4 groups at one time and/or they are
cross-posted to groups that have no bearing on the content of the
message that is being cross-posted. Multi-posted messages that exceed
more than 2 groups will not be tolerated at all and may also be
subject to immediate deletion.

And coincidentally - I cross-posted to 3 groups, and multiposted twice
(by reason of being denied in the 1st place - not by my choice) - so
I have in fact posted to a total of just 4 groups anyhow, which happens
to be within your guidelines... so perhaps an apology would not go
astray?

Chris.


"Slime" <slm### [at] slimelandcom> wrote in message
news:3f2e9a80$1@news.povray.org...
> > I require a routine for a security application I am writing.  My
> > application requires users to choose a password which consists
> > of 2 things:
> > 1. a traditional alphanumeric secret password
> > 2. a chosen picture
>
> One thing that bothers me about this, and that you might want to keep in
> mind, is that this security system will be completely inaccessible to
blind
> users.
>
>  - Slime
> [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
>
>

Post a reply to this message

In article <3f307f65@news.povray.org> , " ! Chris" <Rep### [at] groupto> wrote:

> Yeah - someone at PovRay cancelled my post 24hrs after I made it :-(

And you were told why (in p.a-u iirc).  You crossposted *and* multiposted
the message.  This sucessfully split the thread because the posts in this
group obviously won't appear in p.a-u where the same topic is discussed as
well.

    Thorsten

____________________________________________________
Thorsten Froehlich
e-mail: mac### [at] povrayorg

I am a member of the POV-Ray Team.
Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org

Post a reply to this message

In article <3f308397@news.povray.org> , " ! Chris" <Rep### [at] groupto> wrote:

> And coincidentally - I cross-posted to 3 groups, and multiposted twice
> (by reason of being denied in the 1st place - not by my choice) - so
> I have in fact posted to a total of just 4 groups anyhow, which happens
> to be within your guidelines... so perhaps an apology would not go
> astray?

Excuse me?  You know you were doing something the server administrator
didn't want (as you noticed the massive cross-post was rejected), then work
around it by using combined multiposting and crossposting, and when those
messages are removed start complaining?  I don't think this kind of argument
will lead anywhere.

    Thorsten

____________________________________________________
Thorsten Froehlich
e-mail: mac### [at] povrayorg

I am a member of the POV-Ray Team.
Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org

Post a reply to this message

In article <3f3081e1@news.povray.org> , " ! Chris" <Rep### [at] groupto> wrote:

> I still can't see what I've done "wrong" - I think, Thorsten, you probably
> just don't like the idea of me looking to pay someone for work, and using
> your server to do so?  If this is the case - it would have been nicer to
> publish your opinion rather than cancel the posting.

Messages that violate posting rules are removed regardless of content.  In
fact I didn't read the whole message, only enough to make sure it is
identical to the other multiposted versions.  Thus, canceling such messages
represents no opinion on part of the POV-Team or the server administrator at
all.

    Thorsten

____________________________________________________
Thorsten Froehlich
e-mail: mac### [at] povrayorg

I am a member of the POV-Ray Team.
Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org

Post a reply to this message

" ! Chris" <Rep### [at] groupto> wrote in news:3f308397@news.povray.org:

> so perhaps an apology would not go astray?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 

The people on this server are some of the most helpful on the internet.  
The admins do a great job, and generally give the benefit of the doubt. 
However I would not hold your breath waiting for an apology.  IMHO, Your 
posts were excessive. Regardless of what the letter of the AUP states, the 
multi/cross posting certainly violated the spirit.  A single post in 
general or off-topic would have sufficed.  

-- 
Tom
_________________________________
The Internet Movie Project
http://www.imp.org/

Post a reply to this message

> Relax - I have not made mention of the audio-interface

Glad to hear it =)

(er, no pun intended)

 - Slime
[ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]

Post a reply to this message

"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> wrote in message
news:3f30e76b$1@news.povray.org...
[snip]
> I don't think this kind of argument will lead anywhere.

Well, naturally it won't lead anyplace, because you cancelled my
"massive" (ie: Thorsten-speak for "four") posting when it happened NOT
to violate any rules, and you're too rude to apologize or admit your
mistake...

Shame on you.  Double-shame for not even bothering to read my posting
first (had you done so, it's appropriateness would have been
apparent). Tripleshame for not apologizing and your exhibition of
dishonesty (not admitting you hate the commercial aspects, being the
real reason for the cancellation).

Post a reply to this message

In article <3f378d0e$1@news.povray.org> , " ! Chris" <Rep### [at] groupto> 
wrote:

> Well, naturally it won't lead anyplace, because you cancelled my
> "massive" (ie: Thorsten-speak for "four") posting when it happened NOT
> to violate any rules, and you're too rude to apologize or admit your
> mistake...

You had posted a message with the same content as the one which started this
thread in povray.advanced-users, and which has to not been removed (see
below) to povray.off-topic, povray.msdos, povray.unix (message id
<3f1e8df7$2@news.povray.org>) and to povray.programming, povray.general
(message id <3f1e8e0a@news.povray.org>).

Thus, in total the content was posted to six groups in three distinct
messages.

> Shame on you.  Double-shame for not even bothering to read my posting
> first (had you done so, it's appropriateness would have been
> apparent).

I do not have the time to read every message posted on this server.
Especially not three times the same message in six different groups.

> Tripleshame for not apologizing and your exhibition of
> dishonesty (not admitting you hate the commercial aspects, being the
> real reason for the cancellation).

As said before, the additional messages were removed because of excessive
multi-posting and cross-posting.  Not for _any_ other reason.

    Thorsten Froehlich, POV-Team


The original message is still on the server and had at no time been removed:

From: " !" <ban### [at] bangbangom>
Newsgroups: povray.advanced-users
Subject: Paid Project offer (image gneration for security purposes)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 21:01:31 +1000
Message-ID: <3f1a7671@news.povray.org>
Xref: news.povray.org povray.advanced-users:8090


____________________________________________________
Thorsten Froehlich
e-mail: mac### [at] povrayorg

I am a member of the POV-Ray Team.
Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org

Post a reply to this message

Moderating a newsgroup is no easy task, and I'm sure that at this stage 
of the conversation Chris knows that this group is well guarded (thanks 
for that Thorsten). But I don't think he meant to spam us, he'll 
probably be carefull next time. This is the kind of conversation that 
won't lead anywhere it seems, so let's keep peace of mind.

JC

Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> In article <3f378d0e$1@news.povray.org> , " ! Chris" <Rep### [at] groupto> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Well, naturally it won't lead anyplace, because you cancelled my
>>"massive" (ie: Thorsten-speak for "four") posting when it happened NOT
>>to violate any rules, and you're too rude to apologize or admit your
>>mistake...
> 
> 
> You had posted a message with the same content as the one which started this
> thread in povray.advanced-users, and which has to not been removed (see
> below) to povray.off-topic, povray.msdos, povray.unix (message id
> <3f1e8df7$2@news.povray.org>) and to povray.programming, povray.general
> (message id <3f1e8e0a@news.povray.org>).
> 
> Thus, in total the content was posted to six groups in three distinct
> messages.
> 
> 
>>Shame on you.  Double-shame for not even bothering to read my posting
>>first (had you done so, it's appropriateness would have been
>>apparent).
> 
> 
> I do not have the time to read every message posted on this server.
> Especially not three times the same message in six different groups.
> 
> 
>>Tripleshame for not apologizing and your exhibition of
>>dishonesty (not admitting you hate the commercial aspects, being the
>>real reason for the cancellation).
> 
> 
> As said before, the additional messages were removed because of excessive
> multi-posting and cross-posting.  Not for _any_ other reason.
> 
>     Thorsten Froehlich, POV-Team
> 
> 
> The original message is still on the server and had at no time been removed:
> 
> From: " !" <ban### [at] bangbangom>
> Newsgroups: povray.advanced-users
> Subject: Paid Project offer (image gneration for security purposes)
> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 21:01:31 +1000
> Message-ID: <3f1a7671@news.povray.org>
> Xref: news.povray.org povray.advanced-users:8090
> 
> 
> ____________________________________________________
> Thorsten Froehlich
> e-mail: mac### [at] povrayorg
> 
> I am a member of the POV-Ray Team.
> Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org

Post a reply to this message