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OK, well, a lump of shashed up ice doesn't look reflective at all... but
take a bit and polish it to give it a nice smooth surface and you find that
it actually IS reflective. Was thinking, if you have a layer of gas, it's
surface probably isn't smooth, which might explain why it doesn't look
reflective.
If that makes sense.
Andrew.
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On Thu, 8 May 2003 08:48:09 +0100, "Andrew Coppin" <orp### [at] btinternet com> wrote:
> OK, well, a lump of shashed up ice doesn't look reflective at all...
But I think it is reflective, just with a lot of blur :-)
> Was thinking, if you have a layer of gas, it's
> surface probably isn't smooth, which might explain why it doesn't look
> reflective.
On desert you can see images in the air. You know how ?
http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/graphics/photos/supmirag.gif
ABX
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Andrew <ast### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> If something was truly non-reflective,
> it would be perfectly invisible
A transparent object which refracts light is never invisible.
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Andrew Coppin wrote:
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> Here's a simple enough question...
>
> Is it possible for a transparent substance to be non-reflective? Or are all
> transparent substances inherantly reflective to a certain degree?
Reflection is an inherent effect on all interfaces between materials of
different optical density (i.e. ior, speed of light in the material)
The amount of reflection depending on the incident angle and the materials
can be calculated with the fresnel equations. This works for both a
transit from less dense to more dense medium as well as the other way
round. More information can be found in the links from:
http://www-public.tu-bs.de:8080/~y0013390/pov/water/water_app1.html#reflect
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At school a teacher told us that reflection is caused if the surface is
electroconductive (at the frequency of the light-wave). In that case it
will "short-circuit" the "electric part" of the wave (light is an
electromagnetic-wave) - because the electric and the magnetic vectors
are perpendicular the angle of reflection is equal to the angle of
incidence.
I have got no idea if this is true - could be complete nonsense...
-sascha
Christoph Hormann wrote:
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> Andrew Coppin wrote:
>
>>Here's a simple enough question...
>>
>>Is it possible for a transparent substance to be non-reflective? Or are all
>>transparent substances inherantly reflective to a certain degree?
>
>
> Reflection is an inherent effect on all interfaces between materials of
> different optical density (i.e. ior, speed of light in the material)
>
> The amount of reflection depending on the incident angle and the materials
> can be calculated with the fresnel equations. This works for both a
> transit from less dense to more dense medium as well as the other way
> round. More information can be found in the links from:
>
> http://www-public.tu-bs.de:8080/~y0013390/pov/water/water_app1.html#reflect
>
> Christoph
>
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> A transparent object which refracts light is never invisible.
...unless it's an even-thickness slab, viewed exactly square-on *grin*
Andrew.
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> Reflection is an inherent effect on all interfaces between materials of
> different optical density (i.e. ior, speed of light in the material)
Right. That would seem to explain why no one has ever managed to make
invisible glass for windows yet...
> The amount of reflection depending on the incident angle and the materials
> can be calculated with the fresnel equations. This works for both a
> transit from less dense to more dense medium as well as the other way
> round. More information can be found in the links from:
>
>
http://www-public.tu-bs.de:8080/~y0013390/pov/water/water_app1.html#reflect
...and once again I'm left saying I'll check it out later... oh to have more
time! lol
Thanks.
Andrew.
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On Thu, 8 May 2003 21:54:54 +0100, "Andrew Coppin"
<orp### [at] btinternetcom> wrote:
>...unless it's an even-thickness slab, viewed exactly square-on *grin*
You'll see the edges and side walls due to perspective unless the side
walls are parallel to the viewing rays, but then again you'll have to
look at it with one eye closed.
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Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vipbg
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In article <3eb95e52@news.povray.org>,
"Andrew Coppin" <orp### [at] btinternetcom> wrote:
> Is it possible for a transparent substance to be non-reflective? Or are all
> transparent substances inherantly reflective to a certain degree?
All known substances are reflective to some degree. (Though neutronium
may be an exception...)
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In article <3eba0869@news.povray.org>,
"Andrew Coppin" <orp### [at] btinternetcom> wrote:
> Hmm... gases don't *appear* reflective... but does a gas have a surface???
Mirages. The varying density can cause reflections.
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