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From: paul simpson
Subject: command line DV .avi program...
Date: 12 Aug 2002 11:59:05
Message: <3d57db49$3@news.povray.org>
Hi all,

Has anyone found a command line program that can take a seris of sequential
images and make an DV .avi file?  It must be fully automated and be able to
be run from a perl script.  There must be something out there....

Cheers,

Paul


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: command line DV .avi program...
Date: 12 Aug 2002 19:12:23
Message: <3d5840d7@news.povray.org>
In povray.advanced-users paul simpson <paul@realisestudio.com> wrote:
> Has anyone found a command line program that can take a seris of sequential
> images and make an DV .avi file?

  What is a DV .avi file?

-- 
#macro M(A,N,D,L)plane{-z,-9pigment{mandel L*9translate N color_map{[0rgb x]
[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: command line DV .avi program...
Date: 13 Aug 2002 02:21:36
Message: <3d58a570@news.povray.org>
In article <3d5840d7@news.povray.org> , Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg>  wrote:

>   What is a DV .avi file?

My guess would be that it is an avi file containing the DV file data from a
DV camcorder (that is a digital one, just search the net if you don't know
them).

I have to admit that I don't even know if avi supports it, but I do know
that QuickTime supports it and (also I am not sure if it works under
Windows) supports reading and writing that data from a IEEE 1394 device (aka
FireWire or iLink).

    Thorsten

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From: Sebastian H 
Subject: Re: command line DV .avi program...
Date: 13 Aug 2002 07:49:31
Message: <3d58f24b@news.povray.org>
>  Hi all,
> 
> Has anyone found a command line program that can take a seris of sequential
> images and make an DV .avi file?  It must be fully automated and be able to
> be run from a perl script.  There must be something out there....
> 

Maybe take a look at
mplayer which contains mencoder (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/)
or
mjepgtools (http://mjpeg.sourceforge.net/)
(both linux)
or
virtualdub (www.virtualdub.org)
(windows)

I dont't know if any of them can encode to DV but if there exist a codec 
(maybe from a camera manufacture) a least one of the can.


Good luck,
Sebastian H.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: command line DV .avi program...
Date: 13 Aug 2002 10:07:56
Message: <3d5912bc@news.povray.org>
In povray.general Thorsten Froehlich <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
> I have to admit that I don't even know if avi supports it

  AFAIK AVIs can contain *anything* that you can express in RIFF format.
It's just a question of having the proper codec to read and interpret the
contents of the AVI.

-- 
#macro M(A,N,D,L)plane{-z,-9pigment{mandel L*9translate N color_map{[0rgb x]
[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: command line DV .avi program...
Date: 13 Aug 2002 10:25:38
Message: <3d5916e2@news.povray.org>
In article <3d5912bc@news.povray.org> , Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg>  wrote:

>   AFAIK AVIs can contain *anything* that you can express in RIFF format.
> It's just a question of having the proper codec to read and interpret the
> contents of the AVI.

I was actually referring to a standard codec being available on all systems
as it avoids compatibility problems and such.  This suggests it would be
from Microsoft or being distributed by them.  And it does not say much about
OS support for getting DV data to or from a DV camcorder and turning it into
an avi file instantly. Of course, it depends on what exactly is needed...

    Thorsten

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Thorsten Froehlich, Duisburg, Germany
e-mail: tho### [at] trfde

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From: Dennis Miller
Subject: Re: command line DV .avi program...
Date: 13 Aug 2002 10:35:14
Message: <3d591922$1@news.povray.org>
Microsoft includes a DV codec in all current builds (was it included with
DirectX 8), so an AVI file encoded for DV makes sense. I don't know how you
could call the codec from the command line, which might need to be done in
two passes: create an uncompressed AVI from your image sequence, then run
the codec on it.

Let me know if you come up with a solution.
D.


"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> wrote in message
news:3d5916e2@news.povray.org...
> In article <3d5912bc@news.povray.org> , Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg>  wrote:
>
> >   AFAIK AVIs can contain *anything* that you can express in RIFF format.
> > It's just a question of having the proper codec to read and interpret
the
> > contents of the AVI.
>
> I was actually referring to a standard codec being available on all
systems
> as it avoids compatibility problems and such.  This suggests it would be
> from Microsoft or being distributed by them.  And it does not say much
about
> OS support for getting DV data to or from a DV camcorder and turning it
into
> an avi file instantly. Of course, it depends on what exactly is needed...
>
>     Thorsten
>
> ____________________________________________________
> Thorsten Froehlich, Duisburg, Germany
> e-mail: tho### [at] trfde
>
> Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: command line DV .avi program...
Date: 14 Aug 2002 11:02:20
Message: <3d5a70fc@news.povray.org>
In povray.advanced-users Dennis Miller <dhmiller@attbi.com> wrote:
> Microsoft includes a DV codec in all current builds (was it included with
> DirectX 8), so an AVI file encoded for DV makes sense. I don't know how you
> could call the codec from the command line, which might need to be done in
> two passes: create an uncompressed AVI from your image sequence, then run
> the codec on it.

  You could use the following utility to create a raw avi and then mencoder
to convert it to DV avi (supposing you get the DV codec working with
mencoder, and why shouldn't you?):
http://oktober.stc.cx/source/animmaker.html

  (There's an example there on how to create a DivX avi; should be obviously
simple to modify in order to create a DV avi instead.)

-- 
#macro M(A,N,D,L)plane{-z,-9pigment{mandel L*9translate N color_map{[0rgb x]
[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -


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From: Thomas Willhalm
Subject: Re: command line DV .avi program...
Date: 26 Aug 2002 02:36:30
Message: <3d69cc6e@news.povray.org>
Hello Paul,

paul simpson wrote:
> 
> Has anyone found a command line program that can take a seris of
> sequential images and make an DV .avi file?  

perhaps "transcode" 
http://www.theorie.physik.uni-goettingen.de/~ostreich/transcode/html/modules.html
is the tool that you are looking for. Among a lot of other formats it can
read a list of images and write a DV-AVI-File.

Thomas


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From: Scott Moore
Subject: Re: command line DV .avi program...
Date: 13 Aug 2002 07:19:00
Message: <apqhlu8dffmp9aus4l6rn4kfvuoddud9fj@4ax.com>
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:21:34 +0200, "Thorsten Froehlich"
<tho### [at] trfde> wrote:

>In article <3d5840d7@news.povray.org> , Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg>  wrote:
>
>>   What is a DV .avi file?
>
>My guess would be that it is an avi file containing the DV file data from a
>DV camcorder (that is a digital one, just search the net if you don't know
>them).

You guess correctly - although the data need not have originated from
a DV camcorder.

>
>I have to admit that I don't even know if avi supports it,

A DV codec is included with DirectX 8 (not the best quality mind you,
but it does the job). Several video editing packages include a better
quality codec. Most of the codecs are for use with .avi files.

> but I do know that QuickTime supports it and (also I am not sure if it works under
>Windows) supports reading and writing that data from a IEEE 1394 device (aka
>FireWire or iLink).
>

Quicktime also has a DV codec (licensed from Sorenson if I remember
correctly). This codec is for use with .mov files

The transfer to and capture from DV camcorders is a separate process
from the work the codec does. Most DV video editing packages include a
capture/transfer utility.

Cheers,

Scott


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