On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:57:28 +0200, Marc Schimmler
<sch### [at] icauni-stuttgartde> wrote:

>I printed out both manuals and when I started
>to do the 3.1 stuff I first tried to do it with these declarations at
>the beginning of each section and really disliked them. They way the
>language has been presented in the 3.0 docs I personally found much
>easier...

  I can't remember what the differences are. I will check some CD-ROMs for
the v3.0 docs as I don't have them on my system any longer. If you can
recall offhand without having to turn it into a research project what are
some sections from the older doc that I can compare with v3.1 version
(dependent on whether I can find the older version laying around)?

> ...(and that only a matter of the format).

  Do you mean the doc's file format (.html, .pdf, Word, Windows Help) or
something else? I just want to make sure I'm on the same wavelength as
everyone else <s>.

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Lewis wrote:
>er....hehe - i got 7
>heheheh
>;)

Me too...

I've got a lot of "I think I know it but I'm not 100% sure so it doesn't
count" :-)

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Alan Kong wrote:
> 
> 
>   I can't remember what the differences are. I will check some CD-ROMs for
> the v3.0 docs as I don't have them on my system any longer. If you can
> recall offhand without having to turn it into a research project what are
> some sections from the older doc that I can compare with v3.1 version
> (dependent on whether I can find the older version laying around)?
> 

For that I have to be at home where I can give you the sections.


> > ...(and that only a matter of the format).
> 
>   Do you mean the doc's file format (.html, .pdf, Word, Windows Help) or
> something else? I just want to make sure I'm on the same wavelength as
> everyone else <s>.
> 

Not the file format but the style actually. I know that it is typical
for programming language descriptions to describe the syntax in the way
it is done in the 3.1 docs. I tried to use it for a fast reference even
with parts from the 3.0 version I had forgotten (shame on me) but found
them not usable for me. Maybe you could add a small section that
explains how to understand them (or have I overseen such a part ... ?).

All the Best,

Marc
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On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:04:29 -0500, Mike <Ama### [at] aolcom> wrote:

>Then there was the one about making a patch for POV-Ray.  I made that one
>patch a few months ago with changes to fix the problems with radiosity.
>Later there were bug fixes made in those areas in the official version, but
>I'm sure they handled it different, but I did point out the areas where the
>problem lie.  Does that count?  Do I care?  I dunno, maybe.

Does the "hardcore povrayer test" count for much? Should we care? 

I think it makes for some interesting trivia, but shouldn't be thought
of as some sort of important judgement on any POV-User's worth or
merit as an artist, craftsman, or human being.

Later,
Glen Berry

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On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:54:24 +0200, Marc Schimmler wrote:
>Maybe you could add a small section that
>explains how to understand them (or have I overseen such a part ... ?).

You overlooked such a part.  See "Notation and Basic Assumptions",
toward the top of the document.

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ako### [at] pacbellnet (Alan Kong) wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 04:22:08 -0700, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
>
> > The content appears to be the same only the format has changed. I believe
> >we discussed this in .general a while back didn't we ?
>
>   We discussed the way we could no longer traverse the entire docs by paging
> down continuously. Just wanted to hear if there was something else that was
> lacking...

If we're speaking of the PDF version, the fact that the index doesn't
have hot links to the content is a minor annoyance for me.

(I don't know about the Windows version of the Acrobat Reader, but under
OS/2, it can be set to default to continuous rather than single pages,
so it *is* possible to page down continuously through the docs.)


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I got 24, but have some questions:


#12-Not really, but I have ported the Photon Mapping patch to the
Mac(and found one very tiny bug in the code). I suppose that doesn't
count.

#19-I understand what it means, I don't know how it is calculated. One
point?

#25-does this mean "the only time you use PNG is with POV-Ray" or "the
only format you use with POV-Ray is PNG"? In any case, I use PNG and
TGA.

#31-Should this be here? I have heard of emacs, but I don't know what it
is, and I don't think there is a Mac version.

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On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:58:37 GMT, shi### [at] gatenet (Jeff Lee) wrote:

>If we're speaking of the PDF version, the fact that the index doesn't
>have hot links to the content is a minor annoyance for me.

  Hi, Jeff. I'm using Acrobat Reader v4.0 for the Windows platform and I'm
able to click on a topic in the index to go to that particular section or
sub-section of the docs.

>(I don't know about the Windows version of the Acrobat Reader, but under
>OS/2, it can be set to default to continuous rather than single pages,
>so it *is* possible to page down continuously through the docs.)

  My version of Acrobat Reader is set up this way although I don't recall if
this is the default or I changed something.

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On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:54:24 +0200, Marc Schimmler
<sch### [at] icauni-stuttgartde> wrote:

>For that I have to be at home where I can give you the sections.

  Okay.

>Not the file format but the style actually. I know that it is typical
>for programming language descriptions to describe the syntax in the way
>it is done in the 3.1 docs.

  I'll have to take a look at the particular sections...

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Glen Berry wrote:

> Does the "hardcore povrayer test" count for much? Should we care?
>
> I think it makes for some interesting trivia, but shouldn't be thought
> of as some sort of important judgement on any POV-User's worth or
> merit as an artist, craftsman, or human being.
>
> Later,
> Glen Berry

I support that opinion, and not only because I don't seem to get more than 10
(of course it's hard to resist to such a test because it's fun)...
Let's try to imagine such a test in the late 1880... The hardcore oil-painter
test... with questions like :
- do you know all the chemical formulas of all the pigments you use ?
- can you build a weaving machine so that you can make your own canvas ?
- what's the ideal growing temperature for linseed, so that you can grow some in
your backyard and crush the seed to make your own oil ?
- the thermodynamics of sunsets are a piece of cake
- can you tell the names of the ten Parisian brothels where you can sit down,
drink absinth and find cheap models and inspiration ?
- what's the average WHR (waist-to-hip ratio) of the brothel employees ?
- what's the average permanency of eosine ?
- what are the scientific name of sunflowers and irises ?
- do you hunt minks and wild boars to take their hair and make your own brushes
?
- do you have your two earlobes ?
- have you ever sold any painting ?

G.

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