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From: Mark M  Wilson
Subject: Re: Moray 'handedness' vs. POV-Ray
Date: 29 Aug 2001 09:50:45
Message: <3B8CF52D.27742BFA@ncsl.dcr.state.nc.us>
Warp wrote:
> 

>   So you need to make a scale <-1,1,1> and a proper rotation in order to
> get the same object in POV-Ray.

Never occurred to me that you could do a negative scale -- does that
help make a mirror image of a non-symmetrical obj. in a way that merely


>   (Of course the other solution is to use a right-handed camera in POV-Ray
> so that its universe is identical to Moray's.)

That sounds really interesting -- I'll have to check it out.  Is the
syntax for doing a RH camera addressed in the POVray manual?

Thanks for your input, and like Daniel said, any clue how to pronounce
Bezier, or is it one of those words you've never had occasion to say
outloud, so you're no more certain than me?  ;-)

--Mark


 
> --
> #macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
> rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
> ],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
> 7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Moray 'handedness' vs. POV-Ray
Date: 29 Aug 2001 10:00:48
Message: <3B8CF64E.272F87BF@pacbell.net>
"Mark M. Wilson" wrote:

> Thanks for your input, and like Daniel said, any clue how to pronounce
> Bezier, or is it one of those words you've never had occasion to say
> outloud, so you're no more certain than me?  ;-)

Bez-ee-ur - like busier with an e. Works for me and I'm sticking with it.

-- 
Ken Tyler


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From: Mark M  Wilson
Subject: Re: Moray 'handedness' vs. POV-Ray
Date: 29 Aug 2001 10:04:14
Message: <3B8CF855.D8F94A5D@ncsl.dcr.state.nc.us>
Hmph, I was sure it sounded French. ;-)
-Mark

Ken wrote:
> 
> "Mark M. Wilson" wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for your input, and like Daniel said, any clue how to pronounce
> > Bezier, or is it one of those words you've never had occasion to say
> > outloud, so you're no more certain than me?  ;-)
> 
> Bez-ee-ur - like busier with an e. Works for me and I'm sticking with it.
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Moray 'handedness' vs. POV-Ray
Date: 29 Aug 2001 10:13:53
Message: <3b8cf8a0@news.povray.org>
Mark M. Wilson <mmw### [at] ncsldcrstatencus> wrote:
: Never occurred to me that you could do a negative scale -- does that
: help make a mirror image of a non-symmetrical obj. in a way that merely


  Again, think about your hands: No matter how you ROTATE your right hand,
it will never be identical to your left hand. So rotating doesn't help.
  A negative scaling just mirrors the object in the direction of the axis
(internally it doesn't differ at all from a regular positive scale).

: That sounds really interesting -- I'll have to check it out.  Is the
: syntax for doing a RH camera addressed in the POVray manual?

  What you have to do to make a right-handed camera is to, surprise surprise,
mirror the camera about an axis.
  For more details, see
http://www.students.tut.fi/~warp/povVFAQ/morayVFAQ.html#handedness

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#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Moray 'handedness' vs. POV-Ray
Date: 29 Aug 2001 10:18:11
Message: <3B8CFA61.B3DF64D0@pacbell.net>
"Mark M. Wilson" wrote:
> 
> Hmph, I was sure it sounded French. ;-)

When in Rome...

-- 
Ken Tyler


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From: Alexander Enzmann
Subject: Re: Moray 'handedness' vs. POV-Ray
Date: 5 Sep 2001 08:29:16
Message: <3B961A9B.EC1CE10D@mitre.org>
"Mark M. Wilson" wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> And BTW, how do you pronounce Bezier?  Is it "Beh-zee-ay,"
> "Bay-zee-ay,"  or something else altogether?

Beh-zee-ay.

French engineer, worked for Renault, credited with revolutionizing use
of CAD techniques for automobile design.

Xander


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From: Sander
Subject: Re: Moray 'handedness' vs. POV-Ray
Date: 5 Sep 2001 15:19:55
Message: <MPG.1600994b6c250173989680@news.povray.org>
In article <3b8cd481@news.povray.org>, war### [at] tagpovrayorg says...
> Sander <san### [at] stolscom> wrote:
> : How does one mirror about an axis? Shouldn't that be a plane? ;)
> 
>   It depends on how you think about it. You can mirror an object in the
> direction of an axis, ie. one axis of the object gets inverted.
>   This is what scale <-1,1,1> does basicly...
> 
> 
I have a feeling that this is the same as mirroring about a plane ?? If 
I look in a mirror (X Y plane) all Z-values are inverted, is it not ??
-- 
--
Regards, 
Sander


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From: Simon de Vet
Subject: Re: Moray 'handedness' vs. POV-Ray
Date: 5 Sep 2001 17:57:35
Message: <Xns9113C118DA6D2sdevetistarca@204.213.191.226>
Alexander Enzmann <xan### [at] mitreorg> wrote in 
news:3B961A9B.EC1CE10D@mitre.org:

> 
> 
> "Mark M. Wilson" wrote:
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> And BTW, how do you pronounce Bezier?  Is it "Beh-zee-ay,"
>> "Bay-zee-ay,"  or something else altogether?
> 
> Beh-zee-ay.

Ahem:

"Bee-Zee-Er"


-- Simon


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Moray 'handedness' vs. POV-Ray
Date: 5 Sep 2001 19:22:06
Message: <3b96b39e@news.povray.org>
Sander <san### [at] stolscom> wrote:
: I have a feeling that this is the same as mirroring about a plane ?? If 
: I look in a mirror (X Y plane) all Z-values are inverted, is it not ??

  Of course. Mirroring "in the direction of the x-axis" is the same thing
as "mirroring about the yz-plane". I just personally prefer to think about
it in the former way.

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#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: John D  Gwinner
Subject: Beh Zee Er <G>
Date: 19 Sep 2001 16:18:44
Message: <3ba8fda4$1@news.povray.org>
Interesting - does this mean French speaking Canadians and French speaking
.. French pronounce it differently?

While we're at it, how about Ballet and Fillet?  Most American's don't
pronounce that right at all, at least according to my French speaking Dutch
friends.  Never mind we American's probably learned to pronounce it from the
French that immigrated ...

        == John ==

"Simon de Vet" <sde### [at] istarca> wrote in message
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> Alexander Enzmann <xan### [at] mitreorg> wrote in
> news:3B961A9B.EC1CE10D@mitre.org:
>
> >
> >
> > "Mark M. Wilson" wrote:
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >> And BTW, how do you pronounce Bezier?  Is it "Beh-zee-ay,"
> >> "Bay-zee-ay,"  or something else altogether?
> >
> > Beh-zee-ay.
>
> Ahem:
>
> "Bee-Zee-Er"
>
>
> -- Simon


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