i'm wondering how to go about making several of the same object, but
with each having its own version of the original texture.  all i've
tried so far is to make a copy of the first object, and then translate
the texture wireframe of the highest objects that had textures.  it
doesn't seem to work, but while the numbers in the texture translation
boxes changed, it didn't even look to me as though the wireframe moved
at all.  i'm wondering if having the object frozen had anything to do
with it even though the texture space wasn't frozen.

also, does a referrenced object have its own texture space?  in which
case, could i just referrence the object?  i can't use world space for
the textures, because in an animation, when the object moves, the
texture changes.  any ideas anyone?

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Hi ryan constantine, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> i'm wondering how to go about making several of the same object, but
> with each having its own version of the original texture.  all i've
> tried so far is to make a copy of the first object, and then translate
> the texture wireframe of the highest objects that had textures.
You can assign a texture to a reference object. Since the reference
object points to a real object, it is not possible to change the
textures of subobjects in the "copy", since they are not copied.

> i'm wondering if having the object frozen had anything to do
> with it even though the texture space wasn't frozen.
Nope. Even if the object itself is frozen, you can still move the
texture.

 
> also, does a referrenced object have its own texture space?
Yes. The texture that you assign to a reference object will behave as
expected (i.e. just as with any other object). But changing the
texture space for the reference object does not change the way that
the subobjects of the object being referenced are rendered.

Think of the object being referenced as a black box, you can't change
anything inside it, you can only move it and give it another texture.

So, I'm not quite sure what difficulties you're having. If you could
put together a sample that demonstrates it, maybe I can help.

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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i think i know what to do.  tell me if this is correct:
the xwing top object is called XWINGFIGHTER.  it has two subobjects,
Fuselage and Wings, both of which have the same general texture set to
parent texture space.  if i give the XWINGFIGHTER layer a completely
transparent texture and translate from model to model, that essentially
changes the 'parent' location right?

also a question about local/parent etc: if a 3rd level object's texture
space is parent and the parent is also set to parent, does the third
level object's texture space move up to the top level object?  it would
be cool if one could do that.

if all of the above won't work, i'll just have to copy and paste entire
xwings, right?  no refferenceing to get different textures for
subobjects, right?

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Hi ryan constantine, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> i think i know what to do.  tell me if this is correct:
> the xwing top object is called XWINGFIGHTER.  it has two subobjects,
> Fuselage and Wings, both of which have the same general texture set to
> parent texture space.  if i give the XWINGFIGHTER layer a completely
> transparent texture and translate from model to model, that essentially
> changes the 'parent' location right?
Ufff, I don't think I follow. 
 
> also a question about local/parent etc: if a 3rd level object's texture
> space is parent and the parent is also set to parent, does the third
> level object's texture space move up to the top level object?
No. It really uses the parents system. You can only make it move all
the way up with the World space.

> if all of the above won't work, i'll just have to copy and paste entire
> xwings, right?  no refferenceing to get different textures for
> subobjects, right?
Yes, afraid so.

If the objects whose textures you want to change aren't too deep in
the hierarchy, you could copy them as references and build the
hierarchy above them by hand. Or copy the whole fighter, delete the
part that should be differently textured and attach a reference to
that part from the original in its place.

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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