Okay, I've been looking for a full week for something that I need and
I've come to this conclusion:  Moray was made to, at whatever cost, NOT
comply with anything close to VRML.  PLEASE HELP!!  Is there any export
plug-in to directly export from Moray to VRML, or perhaps from Moray to
ANY other 3D file type?  I've downloaded about every 3D file conversion
program, VRML editor, and other junk from all over the world.  The best
setup I've found is to design in Breeze, copy textures from the Moray
material editor, then export from Breeze to VRML.  It would be so much
easier and would produce such better quality  VRML to just take it
straight from Moray.  Thanks for all your time (if you read this far).  

Ben Hamatake
ben### [at] softhomenet

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might be possable as an export plugin or, how close is normal pov script to
vrml? - maytbe a pov converter would be an idea

Rick

"Ben Hamatake" <ham### [at] trilobytenet> wrote in message
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> Okay, I've been looking for a full week for something that I need and
> I've come to this conclusion:  Moray was made to, at whatever cost, NOT
> comply with anything close to VRML.  PLEASE HELP!!  Is there any export
> plug-in to directly export from Moray to VRML, or perhaps from Moray to
> ANY other 3D file type?  I've downloaded about every 3D file conversion
> program, VRML editor, and other junk from all over the world.  The best
> setup I've found is to design in Breeze, copy textures from the Moray
> material editor, then export from Breeze to VRML.  It would be so much
> easier and would produce such better quality  VRML to just take it
> straight from Moray.  Thanks for all your time (if you read this far).
>
> Ben Hamatake
> ben### [at] softhomenet

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"Rick [Kitty5]" wrote:

> might be possable as an export plugin or, how close is normal pov script to
> vrml? - maytbe a pov converter would be an idea
>

Naw- if you know your stuff, and export plugin would be a LOT easier- you don't
have to parse anything.

>
> Rick
>
> "Ben Hamatake" <ham### [at] trilobytenet> wrote in message
> news:388### [at] softhomenet...
> > Okay, I've been looking for a full week for something that I need and
> > I've come to this conclusion:  Moray was made to, at whatever cost, NOT
> > comply with anything close to VRML.  PLEASE HELP!!  Is there any export
> > plug-in to directly export from Moray to VRML, or perhaps from Moray to
> > ANY other 3D file type?  I've downloaded about every 3D file conversion
> > program, VRML editor, and other junk from all over the world.  The best
> > setup I've found is to design in Breeze, copy textures from the Moray
> > material editor, then export from Breeze to VRML.  It would be so much
> > easier and would produce such better quality  VRML to just take it
> > straight from Moray.  Thanks for all your time (if you read this far).
> >

Dunno whether VRML handles primitives, so I don't know about a VRML export.
Anyway, Xander is working on a RIB export, and it works very well(I have no
idea when it'll be public), but its missing many major primitives that
Moray/POV-Ray support(but hey, its RIB! It handles a ton of stuff MOray and
POV-Ray don't support). Anyway, it seems to work fairly well, so other export
plugins might also work. Additionally, I've found a program on the POV-Ray
links server that'll convert RIB to DXF.

>
> > Ben Hamatake
> > ben### [at] softhomenet

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> > might be possable as an export plugin or, how close is normal pov script
to
> > vrml? - maytbe a pov converter would be an idea
> >
>
> Naw- if you know your stuff, and export plugin would be a LOT easier- you
don't
> have to parse anything.

if POV script is so un intellagable that only people and povray can make any
sence of it then maybe its time the script was reworked!

maybe a concerted effort to create reliable biniary format would be an idea,
povray first compiling the script then rendering, that way povray itself
could export a binary format

creating in povray is becomming to much of a one way process, and i think is
seriously hampering the uptake of of our favorite raytracer, the inability
to get hours of work in pov to anything else is a very serious issue that
needs adressing

Rick

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"Rick [Kitty5]" wrote:

> > > might be possable as an export plugin or, how close is normal pov script
> to
> > > vrml? - maytbe a pov converter would be an idea
> > >
> >
> > Naw- if you know your stuff, and export plugin would be a LOT easier- you
> don't
> > have to parse anything.
>
> if POV script is so un intellagable that only people and povray can make any
> sence of it then maybe its time the script was reworked!

No, thats the problem- its MADE to be human readable. Which makes it a bitch for
it to be computer readable.

>
>
> maybe a concerted effort to create reliable biniary format would be an idea,
> povray first compiling the script then rendering, that way povray itself
> could export a binary format

Perhaps that is the solution. Ask teh POV-Team.

>
>
> creating in povray is becomming to much of a one way process, and i think is
> seriously hampering the uptake of of our favorite raytracer, the inability
> to get hours of work in pov to anything else is a very serious issue that
> needs adressing

>
>
> Rick

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>  how close is normal pov script to vrml? 

Not close at all! OK, VRML even supports *some* primitives (sphere,
box, ...) besides Polygons, but many are missing, not to mention the
different file structure, texturing(!) and the special POV programming
features which no format except POV supports...

I think that VRML is closer to a polygon descripting language like
Wavefront .OBJ or 3DStudio than to any solid modeller as it's intended
for realtime view.

Florian

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