Hi Elminster, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> Here is one the one that was driveing me to going bald ;)
OK, here is the MTX that contains it. It seemed pretty simple, but
then I wrote the program<g>. It would help me if you could describe
what presented you with the biggest problem.

Note that the second layer is a bit strange in that it defines both
phong and specular in the finish.

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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lut### [at] stmuccom (Lutz Kretzschmar) wrote in <37a### [at] newsstmuccom>:

>Hi Elminster, you recently wrote in moray.win:
>
>> Here is one the one that was driveing me to going bald ;)
>OK, here is the MTX that contains it. It seemed pretty simple, but
>then I wrote the program<g>. It would help me if you could describe
>what presented you with the biggest problem.
>
>Note that the second layer is a bit strange in that it defines both
>phong and specular in the finish.
>
>- Lutz
>  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
>  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

Lutz,

   I couldn't get it to take both pigments.  I just may not understand the 
order in which to enter the data in the Material editor, but I couldn't get 
the source window to look like the .inc code.  I guess it's time to RTFM ;)

Bob Ratliff
elm### [at] mrtccom

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Hi Elminster, you recently wrote in moray.win:

>    I couldn't get it to take both pigments.  
You need to add two textures to a layered texture (check the Material
Editor with that sample.


> but I couldn't get the source window to look like the .inc code.  
Oh, you often won't since there are numerous ways of writing the same
code in POV-Ray.

> I guess it's time to RTFM ;)
I guess that might help<g>.

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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> > One feature that I find lacking in Moray, is the ability to layer
pigmenst
> > and normals, for some reason you are only allowed one of each.
> Since you can't do that in POV-Ray either, what would be the point?
> Unless you are talking about layering textures, then you are mistaken,
> since Moray has supported this since V2.5 for DOS. In the Material
> Editor, use Create and selecte 'Layered Texture'. Then add as many
> texture layrers as you need.
POV-Ray does support this, I am talking about multiple pigment statments in
the same texture and the same with normals like the following:

texture{
    pigment{some pigment}
    pigment{another pigment that is slightly transparent}
    normal{some normal}
    normal{another normal that is added to the first}
}

the advantage of this is that it cuts down on the parsing and rendering time
as compared to a layerd texture.

-- T'vakah

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T'vakah wrote:
> 
> texture{
>     pigment{some pigment}
>     pigment{another pigment that is slightly transparent}
>     normal{some normal}
>     normal{another normal that is added to the first}
> }
> 

If I understand correctly, POV simply overwrites the first pigment
with the second pigment.  Same goes for normals.

-Nathan

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I recently experimented with this idea, and proved myself wrong.  While you
can layer pigments like textures, this then takes longer to render, and
gives very different results than a layerd texture.  But with normals, the
last one listed is the one that is used, like Nathan said.
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On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:45:12 GMT, lut### [at] stmuccom (Lutz Kretzschmar) wrote:

>Note that the second layer is a bit strange in that it defines both
>phong and specular in the finish.

  I've seen this in other textures before, Lutz. It's how some people choose
to show a pronounced highlight within a highlight.

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Alan Kong wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:45:12 GMT, lut### [at] stmuccom (Lutz Kretzschmar) wrote:
> 
> >Note that the second layer is a bit strange in that it defines both
> >phong and specular in the finish.
> 
>   I've seen this in other textures before, Lutz. It's how some people choose
> to show a pronounced highlight within a highlight.

If you want a veeery nice varnished wood, using both specular and phong
is the way to go; the result is much more realistic, you get the
softness
of the specular, and the crisp of the phong.

Fabien.

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On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:43:45 +0200, Fabien Mosen <fab### [at] skynetbe>
wrote:

>If you want a veeery nice varnished wood, using both specular and phong
>is the way to go; the result is much more realistic, you get the
>softness of the specular, and the crisp of the phong.

  Thanks, Fabien! Another tip from a pro...

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