Is anybody aware of a Linux version of Moray? Either under X-Window or
on the Linux console, I do not mind. But please, do not force me to sacrify
a partition to Windows 95! Even a Windows 3.1 version (or port) would be
enough for me.
  Waiting for your information,

B-o-b, also called Roland.
--

bob### [at] casimirrezelenstfr -- Linux, POV-Ray, LaTeX

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Hello!

>Is anybody aware of a Linux version of Moray? Either under X-Window or
>on the Linux console, I do not mind. But please, do not force me to sacrify
>a partition to Windows 95! Even a Windows 3.1 version (or port) would be
>enough for me.

Har, har, har (evil-bill-gatesish-laughter) - there isn't (if you're talking
about V 2.0).
I use OS/2 since it came out and decided to skip Moray after they announced
that they would do the next version 95/NT only (which doesn't run under OS/2)
- now I've decided to use 95 not only for gaming. Hurts a lot, but that's the
way it is. Maybe 2.5 runs in a DOS emulation under linux, never tried this,
but you would drop a lot of cool stuff that came with 2.0.


Bye,
   Ingo.

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Ingo Guenther wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> >Is anybody aware of a Linux version of Moray? Either under X-Window or
> >on the Linux console, I do not mind. But please, do not force me to sacrify
> >a partition to Windows 95! Even a Windows 3.1 version (or port) would be
> >enough for me.
> 
> Har, har, har (evil-bill-gatesish-laughter) - there isn't (if you're talking
> about V 2.0).
> I use OS/2 since it came out and decided to skip Moray after they announced
> that they would do the next version 95/NT only (which doesn't run under OS/2)
> - now I've decided to use 95 not only for gaming. Hurts a lot, but that's the
> way it is. Maybe 2.5 runs in a DOS emulation under linux, never tried this,
> but you would drop a lot of cool stuff that came with 2.0.
> 
> Bye,
>    Ingo.

but the windows version is so nice. Although... I do still have a linux
partition, and it would be nice to have yet another application that I
can use in linux.

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Ingo Guenther (ing### [at] REMOVEnetcolognede) wrote:
: way it is. Maybe 2.5 runs in a DOS emulation under linux, never tried this,
: but you would drop a lot of cool stuff that came with 2.0.

  Oh... is there more things in version 2.0 than in 2.5? How's that? Is the
version number going backwards?

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Hello!

>Ingo Guenther (ing### [at] REMOVEnetcolognede) wrote:
>: way it is. Maybe 2.5 runs in a DOS emulation under linux, never tried this,
>: but you would drop a lot of cool stuff that came with 2.0.
>
>  Oh... is there more things in version 2.0 than in 2.5? How's that? Is the
>version number going backwards?

3.0, of course - funny that there are still people giggling about a typo...
;)


Bye,
   Ingo.

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On 3 Mar 1998 19:57:48 GMT, bob### [at] clodomirrezelenstfr (Roland Mas)
wrote:

>Is anybody aware of a Linux version of Moray? Either under X-Window or
>on the Linux console, I do not mind. But please, do not force me to sacrify
>a partition to Windows 95! Even a Windows 3.1 version (or port) would be
>enough for me.
>  Waiting for your information,
>
>B-o-b, also called Roland.
>--

>bob### [at] casimirrezelenstfr -- Linux, POV-Ray, LaTeX
>

No, but someone competent with the ins and outs of linux could ask
Softronics to allow for a try to port it. And if they like it, to have
it official and why not, selling. There is a linux POVray, so this
would quicken not only my spirit like someone had opened a window. I
feel absolutely sick for spending a dime anymore on this guy Bill
Gates which is far to sloppy and greedy for being the richest man in
the world. This is not ranting, but therapy and an attempt, to
participate in the question, where the world is going to. Hope, noone
feels disturbed. (I really cannot imagine, anyway). On a medium, that
is so attention catching as computer technology, there is nothing more
asked for than open structures, to give mankind the chance, to have a
more representative sharetaking of it's whirlpool of intelligence and
ethics thinking as a basis of everyday's work. Which will be more and
more influenced by computers. Noone seems to feel the atmosphere, this
cheers ranting moneymaker radiates through his sticky business
decisions. A guy, that supervises his major selling product in such a
sloppy manner!  I have w95b, and it's a joke. Except for FAT32 being a
major enhancement, there are dozens of obvious bugs not have been
taken care for to kill, but the explorer to implant in a manner to
make it seemingly obligate. He is so tasteless, it's embarassing.
Doesn't  anyone see, what it will mean, if this guy is dictating not
to millions, but billions, what is to be considered a good or a bad
way in decision making and production? Because that is,  what a
desktop with all it's machines, spell programs of this and that
faculty is! If someone in the 'outside world' wants to undertake a
business, a product, he's got the idea of the product and then looks
for machines, that can accomplish that. That's the best case. Then
there are people, and that's more or less all of us, that also need
inspiration, intuition, education. By people, that have an idea
already. That's the way, mankind carries it's knowledge along. Now,
when I first saw one of this DOS machines, I thought, man, this can't
be true, this is so absolutely boring and tasteless, where is the next
planet? I started with a sinclair and went to Acorn. Which had 32 bit,
a desktop, a three-button mouse, a menu right under the cursor and
multitasking, that's so long ago, there where still running mainframes
with 16 bit. This is ten years ago. But this guy here was always the
last! Because he was it all stealing! What w95 represents, is not the
result of originating makers, but a bit of here and there, and the
pardon me, stupid answer, that there is NT, comes to me like a slap in
the face, from the man, claiming to drive latest technology for
mankind, as it is sheer cynism. So there are two OS's, one for the
stupid, and one for the brighter? Thanks, no.
Don't you think, a child sitting at the computer does not notice, how
flimsy this w95b upgrade was? Or others will be? And how do you tell
your child then, it would be good to do it's homework? If the somehow
right now mightiest man in the world does not? What's this kid running
up against?


Still afraid of physical wars? Bah, childish.
The war is full blast going.
This guy is not looking for a better mankind or way of living. He's
looking to control you. Worse. He even hasn't made up what for.
He's an empty popanz. That's per the dictionary, he is, a puppet.
Worshipping himself. He is not concerned about anything else.
But he needs a mirror. And that's you, boys and girls, eating shit,
when the fucking thing crashes again, or you wonder, why your
neighbour is opening his windows double fast and antialiased with 30
mips whereas your machine is supposed to have 80.

steff

PS I really would like to see some more programs to feed a more
universal character in bitmanipulation and linux seems to be the
platform. There is moral involved in programming, and Moray always had
a high standard there.

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Stefan Blandow wrote:
> 
> On 3 Mar 1998 19:57:48 GMT, bob### [at] clodomirrezelenstfr (Roland Mas)
> wrote:
> 
> >Is anybody aware of a Linux version of Moray? Either under X-Window or
> >on the Linux console, I do not mind. But please, do not force me to sacrify
> >a partition to Windows 95! Even a Windows 3.1 version (or port) would be
> >enough for me.
> >  Waiting for your information,
> >
> >B-o-b, also called Roland.
> >--

> >bob### [at] casimirrezelenstfr -- Linux, POV-Ray, LaTeX
> >
> 
Moray for windows looks so great.
I recently emailed the Moray guys about a X-windows port for linux, :)
i would pay double for it...i can't encourage them enough. some great
things are happening in the Linux world, particulary the X-windows
enviroment.
including.........
Linux will surely Rock the PC world very shortly..on the 15th April a
3d/animation company will release to the Linux public their inhouse
3danimation software FREE \o/  www.neogeo.nl - its called blender.
Peace,
Jules

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Julian wrote:
> 
> Stefan Blandow wrote:
> >
> > On 3 Mar 1998 19:57:48 GMT, bob### [at] clodomirrezelenstfr (Roland Mas)
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Is anybody aware of a Linux version of Moray? Either under X-Window or
> > >on the Linux console, I do not mind. But please, do not force me to sacrify
> > >a partition to Windows 95! Even a Windows 3.1 version (or port) would be
> > >enough for me.
> > >  Waiting for your information,
> > >
> > >B-o-b, also called Roland.
> > >--

> > >bob### [at] casimirrezelenstfr -- Linux, POV-Ray, LaTeX
> > >
> >
> Moray for windows looks so great.
> I recently emailed the Moray guys about a X-windows port for linux, :)
> i would pay double for it...i can't encourage them enough. some great
> things are happening in the Linux world, particulary the X-windows
> enviroment.
> including.........
> Linux will surely Rock the PC world very shortly..on the 15th April a
> 3d/animation company will release to the Linux public their inhouse
> 3danimation software FREE \o/  www.neogeo.nl - its called blender.
> Peace,
> Jules

Blender looks kinda cool. freeware even! unbelievable. I wonder what the
hardware req's would be for under linux. I wish I had like a p300 or
something :) maybe a little more patience and understanding too. thanks
for thie link!

Ross

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Ross Litscher wrote:
> 
> Blender looks kinda cool. freeware even! unbelievable. I wonder what the
> hardware req's would be for under linux. I wish I had like a p300 or
> something :) maybe a little more patience and understanding too. thanks
> for thie link!
> 
> Ross

I've also been looking at blender, and hey, 15ht of April is very well timed, as that
is
when I get my p300...;-), but then blender is not povray is it? Even if blender is a
killer app, I will always have a soft spot for povray...

Cheers, Matthew

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On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:24:18 +1000, Julian <hgl### [at] tigcomau> wrote:

>Stefan Blandow wrote:
>> On 3 Mar 1998 19:57:48 GMT, bob### [at] clodomirrezelenstfr (Roland Mas)
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >Is anybody aware of a Linux version of Moray? Either under X-Window or
>> >on the Linux console, I do not mind. But please, do not force me to sacrify
>> >a partition to Windows 95! Even a Windows 3.1 version (or port) would be
>> >enough for me.

had to snip

>Moray for windows looks so great.
>I recently emailed the Moray guys about a X-windows port for linux, :)

Hei, that's great. I've done that only so far threading, hope there
will be more requests. It always needs pushing and shuffling to make
things happen, to overcome the paralysing blanketing of MS.

>i would pay double for it...
Me too.. Yes, Sir, stante pede.

> i can't encourage them enough. some great
>things are happening in the Linux world, particulary the X-windows
>enviroment.
>including.........
>Linux will surely Rock the PC world very shortly..on the 15th April a
>3d/animation company will release to the Linux public their inhouse
>3danimation software FREE \o/  www.neogeo.nl - its called blender.

Hei, thanks, Jules, this looks very promising! The viewport handling
and all, it obviously breathes intelligence. It really looks nice!

>Peace,
>Jules

Peace Jules.

steff

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