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From: Hildur K 
Subject: Re: Steampunk?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 10:35:00
Message: <web.4a9e81bb5559dd8a1ea0c8f70@news.povray.org>

a coffee drink.


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From: Hildur K 
Subject: Re: Steampunk?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 10:45:00
Message: <web.4a9e84185559dd8a1ea0c8f70@news.povray.org>
"Hildur K." <nomail@nomail> wrote:

> a coffee drink.

o.k. I have checked it out. Nice :-)


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Steampunk?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 16:04:40
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"clipka" <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote in message 
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>
> Prescription of a certain style would be ok as well IMO.

To be honest I'd probably be complaining if it was just "steampunk".

As Warp said, it's possible to do a "meta" topic for the image. But even 
then I think it's too restricting. Steampunk just isn't a term that's open 
to interpretation. You either render a scene in that style, or a scene 
reflecting/mocking the steampunk sub-culture, or a stupid pun on "steam" and 
"punk". I realise I'm being cynical but I honestly can't see any other 
interpretation and none of those motivate me.

Still, I can see my opinion is not shared by most here, so I'll skip this 
topic and wish you all luck with your entries. Perhaps when I see the 
finished images I'll change my mind!

-- 
Tek
http://evilsuperbrain.com


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Steampunk?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 16:29:20
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Tek <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote:
> As Warp said, it's possible to do a "meta" topic for the image. But even 
> then I think it's too restricting. Steampunk just isn't a term that's open 
> to interpretation. You either render a scene in that style, or a scene 
> reflecting/mocking the steampunk sub-culture, or a stupid pun on "steam" and 
> "punk". I realise I'm being cynical but I honestly can't see any other 
> interpretation and none of those motivate me.

  I think the same arguments could be applied to many of the past IRTC
topics...

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Steampunk?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 21:27:08
Message: <4a9f1b6c$1@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
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> Tek <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote:
>> As Warp said, it's possible to do a "meta" topic for the image. But even
>> then I think it's too restricting. Steampunk just isn't a term that's 
>> open
>> to interpretation. You either render a scene in that style, or a scene
>> reflecting/mocking the steampunk sub-culture, or a stupid pun on "steam" 
>> and
>> "punk". I realise I'm being cynical but I honestly can't see any other
>> interpretation and none of those motivate me.
>
>  I think the same arguments could be applied to many of the past IRTC
> topics...

Yeah sorry about that, I'm tired. I thought about editing out that rant and 
just leaving it as a polite message, but my geek-rage got the better of me 
:)

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Tek
http://evilsuperbrain.com


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Steampunk?
Date: 4 Sep 2009 15:28:16
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Btw, I wonder if clockpunk would fit into the topic.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay
Subject: Re: Steampunk?
Date: 11 Sep 2009 11:34:36
Message: <4aaa6e0c@news.povray.org>
I think Steampunk may have been a good topic on its own, but Time was 
probably chosen as well, as the IRTC says, to link back to the original IRTC 
theme.

I had a fun time learning about the concept of steampunk, and came up with a 
few ideas of my own.  I'm not guaranteeing that I'll enter, but a big part 
of me really wants to, so we'll see...

If not me, I hope that someone will create an "AWSOME ROLEX WATCH!".  ;-)


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From: Mike the Elder
Subject: Re: Steampunk?
Date: 11 Sep 2009 12:05:00
Message: <web.4aaa713a5559dd8a85627c70@news.povray.org>
"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote:
> I have 2 big problems with the new topic: Time (Steampunked)
>
.....
> Seriously, I don't like to cause a fuss, but I really think this topic is a
> bad idea.
>
> --
> Tek
> http://evilsuperbrain.com

I was thinking much the same thing. I take Warp's point that there are creative
work-arounds that are possible given that the IRTC gives rather liberal leeway
with respect to topic interpretation, but this just means that the IRTC has
done a good thing in regard to handling problematic topics so folks can
participate anyway and not that the objections that Tek has raised are not
valid.  I would like to add my voice to those urging that future topics
generally avoid calling for a particular artistic style.

Best Regards,
Mike C.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Steampunk?
Date: 11 Sep 2009 14:27:04
Message: <4aaa9678@news.povray.org>
Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay wrote:

> 
> I had a fun time learning about the concept of steampunk, and came up with a 
> few ideas of my own.  I'm not guaranteeing that I'll enter, but a big part 
> of me really wants to, so we'll see...
> 

Hope you do, Jeremy, you do high quality work.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Steampunk?
Date: 11 Sep 2009 14:29:20
Message: <4aaa9700@news.povray.org>
Mike the Elder wrote:

> valid.  I would like to add my voice to those urging that future topics
> generally avoid calling for a particular artistic style.
> 
Fair enough.


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