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For various reasons, I'm ready to get back in the saddle. (One personal
commitment eased up, computer problems solved, day-job animation project
complete.)
But I'm not doing anything for this round.
Note: if you are using my povray file. per se, for selecting topics, make
sure that you enter in a pre-seed number of the exact specified number of
digits (you can choose one anyway you like).
I personally think LOOONNG contest rounds may discourage some who may fear
looking bad in comparison to someone who has the time to put in a full 4.0
months of evenings into a project. I am sad the 10second club went under.
They were able to generate tons of quality entries with a one-month cycle.
I wouldda moved us to 2.
Markus Altendorff wrote:
> ... how's tracing?
> Anyone working on the interim "Space Settelement" animation topic?
>
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"Greg M. Johnson" <pte### [at] thecommononethatstartswithY com> wrote in
message news:46315014@news.povray.org...
> For various reasons, I'm ready to get back in the saddle. (One personal
> commitment eased up, computer problems solved, day-job animation project
> complete.)
>
> But I'm not doing anything for this round.
>
> Note: if you are using my povray file. per se, for selecting topics, make
> sure that you enter in a pre-seed number of the exact specified number of
> digits (you can choose one anyway you like).
>
> I personally think LOOONNG contest rounds may discourage some who may fear
> looking bad in comparison to someone who has the time to put in a full 4.0
> months of evenings into a project. I am sad the 10second club went under.
> They were able to generate tons of quality entries with a one-month cycle.
> I wouldda moved us to 2.
>
>
> Markus Altendorff wrote:
>
> > ... how's tracing?
> > Anyone working on the interim "Space Settelement" animation topic?
> >
>
Sorry - Markus I let this one slip bye...........and I helped picked the
topic.
Things got crazy busy for me. But I am starting to work on the next topic.
I Think it is "The Black Robe" ?????????
Darin
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"dbott" <dbo### [at] eastsoundsuitescom> wrote in message
news:46315314@news.povray.org...
> Things got crazy busy for me. But I am starting to work on the next topic.
> I Think it is "The Black Robe" ?????????
Yes, it's "The Black Robe" for both Stills and Animations. Stills is
from May to end of June, and Animations is May to to end of August. Two and
four months repectively. So, keep at it Darin! :o)
~Steve~
> Darin
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"Greg M. Johnson" <pte### [at] thecommononethatstartswithYcom> wrote in
message news:46315014@news.povray.org...
> I personally think LOOONNG contest rounds may discourage some who may fear
> looking bad in comparison to someone who has the time to put in a full 4.0
> months of evenings into a project.
I disagree with that Greg. We all know how hard it is to even
complete a still image, let alone an animation. I think when new people see
the quality that will be involved, they will be glad of the 4 months to at
least get something done. That's the challenge.
> I wouldda moved us to 2.
I understand Markus' earlier point about this in another thread. Two
months is just too short to produce quality, and quality is definately
what's needed to get those newbies interested. I think they'll be glad to
have four months.
And anyway, who's to say that there won't be a 'one week' or 'one month'
animation challenge too? ;)
~Steve~
>
>
> Markus Altendorff wrote:
>
>> ... how's tracing?
>> Anyone working on the interim "Space Settelement" animation topic?
>>
>
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"John VanSickle" <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:463134a4@news.povray.org...
> Markus Altendorff wrote:
>> ... how's tracing?
>>
>> Anyone working on the interim "Space Settelement" animation topic?
>
> I've decided that I'm not going to do any animations until there is a
> definite word on whether the IRTC is coming back or not. At that time
> I'll decide when and where I'll be resuming animations.
The thing is John, you'll be an old man by the time the folks at the
IRTC decide to say ANYTHING at all. Personally, even if the IRTC came back
with a new website, new comps, whatever, I wouldn't entertain them. I think
it's really bad form to have done what they've done without doing anything,
saying anything, to ANYONE that's involved. It was just really bad
etiquette, (or, netiquette, if you like).
I would start on "The Black Robe" if I were you John - I was always
intrigued by what you might come up with for this round.
~Steve~
>
> Regards,
> John
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>> Markus Altendorff wrote:
>>> ... how's tracing?
>>>
>>> Anyone working on the interim "Space Settelement" animation topic?
Wow, with the overwhelmingly "positive" response to that question ... i
can almost see the tumbleweeds rolling by and hear the broken window
panes of the IRTC animation community in the distance, rattling in the
desert wind ;)
Now do i want to publicly embarrass myself by hurrying to finish my
video, just to find out it's the only entry? :(
I mean, i enjoy making 3-D animations, and now the tools that work well
with my workflow seem to be available to me. Yeah, nice. Great. But
what's even more fun is *talking* (resp. writing) about the results and
the whole feedback stuff. Now 3D isn't quite the mass market (yes,
YouTube, i'm looking accusingly into your direction...), and i'm not
something like a real "artist", that's why i've always enjoyed this
"peer group" talk with other people that already know what doing 3-D
amateur projects is like here. "You don't have to be any good" (quote
from the IRTC rulebook) - that's not something you'll find on the front
page of any other contest/gallery website...
I mean, c'mon. Talking about e.g. "surface normals" isn't quite part of
the common vocabulary. Most people i know in "real life" tend to
interpret that as a reference to people who are "secretly nuts" - and
who am i to blame them ;)
This is why the whole IRTC affair... it just hurts to see it in this
state of decay.
> "John VanSickle" <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> news:463134a4@news.povray.org...
>> I've decided that I'm not going to do any animations until there is a
>> definite word on whether the IRTC is coming back or not. At that time
>> I'll decide when and where I'll be resuming animations.
Sorry to hear that. I'm missing Rusty already. Watching the re-runs just
isn't the same...
St. wrote:
> The thing is John, you'll be an old man by the time the folks at the
> IRTC decide to say ANYTHING at all. Personally, even if the IRTC came back
> with a new website, new comps, whatever, I wouldn't entertain them. I think
> it's really bad form to have done what they've done without doing anything,
> saying anything, to ANYONE that's involved. It was just really bad
> etiquette, (or, netiquette, if you like).
It sure feels like this, but i'm not certain it was *meant* like that.
From what i've gathered over time, the voluntary "staff" of the IRTC is
really, really small (at some point in time, there were 3 at most? It
started in its first incarnation as a one-man-show, IIRC), and now with
the admin gone for unknown reasons...
(i blushingly recall always being under the impression of the IRTC being
physically locate in Australia, which is why i half-jokingly speculated
about a surfer accident or posion spiders back in december - until i
recently learned it's in the U.S.A - Ooops. )
I've seen artist's websites (i'm also into webcomics... can't seem to
keep away from anything that a) requires computers, b) comes with flashy
graphics and c) wastes my time ;) with notes like "sorry, i'm in the
military and i'm heading off to Bagdad in a week. Won't have internet
for the next year." Now that's a scary thought... and in that case, i'm
pretty sure nominating a replacement admin would be waaay down on my list.
> I would start on "The Black Robe" if I were you John - I was always
> intrigued by what you might come up with for this round.
Will there be more participants this time...?
Yoohoo...?
*sigh*
-Markus
(slightly depressed)
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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:46317c69$1@news.povray.org...
>
> "Greg M. Johnson" <pte### [at] thecommononethatstartswithYcom> wrote in
> message news:46315014@news.povray.org...
>
> > I personally think LOOONNG contest rounds may discourage some who may
fear
> > looking bad in comparison to someone who has the time to put in a full
4.0
> > months of evenings into a project.
>
> I disagree with that Greg. We all know how hard it is to even
> complete a still image, let alone an animation. I think when new people
see
> the quality that will be involved, they will be glad of the 4 months to at
> least get something done. That's the challenge.
>
>
> > I wouldda moved us to 2.
>
> I understand Markus' earlier point about this in another thread. Two
> months is just too short to produce quality, and quality is definately
> what's needed to get those newbies interested. I think they'll be glad to
> have four months.
>
> And anyway, who's to say that there won't be a 'one week' or 'one
month'
> animation challenge too? ;)
>
> ~Steve~
Yes --- 4 months is perfect, especially for people that work 1 or 2 hours a
night
on them. And again, sorry Markus, I lost steam.....Working on coo-coo for 2
months <my first entry to irtc> only to find out I submitted to a closed web
site.
Very frustrating..............Steve, I am working on the Black Robe. It will
be nice
to see the web page ----- I am looking forward to participating in
something active.
Darin
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"Markus Altendorff" <maa### [at] panoramasde> wrote in message
news:4631cc60@news.povray.org...
> St. wrote:
>
>> The thing is John, you'll be an old man by the time the folks at
>> the IRTC decide to say ANYTHING at all. Personally, even if the IRTC came
>> back with a new website, new comps, whatever, I wouldn't entertain them.
>> I think it's really bad form to have done what they've done without doing
>> anything, saying anything, to ANYONE that's involved. It was just really
>> bad etiquette, (or, netiquette, if you like).
>
> It sure feels like this, but i'm not certain it was *meant* like that.
I'm not too sure about that. What if they planned it this way so they
didn't have to burden themselves with it any more, I mean, whoever was in
charge, was in charge for a very long time - I can see that they got bored
with it, I can see that they didn't want this burden any more, and I can see
that they may have had problems passing the buck to someone other than that
young lad who lives in a field all alone with no electricity or broadband
cables around him. Damn, no cellphone too. Not even paper and pen, toboot.
Fairplay to him though, at least he tried once.
If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to hold my hand up. (I hope I am wrong).
> Will there be more participants this time...?
I certainly hope so. And even if yours is the only one, you won't be
disappointing me. :o)
>
> Yoohoo...?
>
> *sigh*
Hey, "It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings!" ;)
~Steve~
>
> -Markus
> (slightly depressed)
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Markus Altendorff <maa### [at] panoramasde> wrote:
> Now 3D isn't quite the mass market (yes,
> YouTube, i'm looking accusingly into your direction...), and i'm not
> something like a real "artist"...
*snip*
Art is subjective. I would submit your average YouTube video of some skate
punk racking himself doing a rail slide doesn't constitute "art", but
beauty is in the eye of the beholder :)
--
Dan
GoofyGraffix.com
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St. wrote:
> "John VanSickle" <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> news:463134a4@news.povray.org...
>
>>Markus Altendorff wrote:
>>
>>>... how's tracing?
>>>
>>>Anyone working on the interim "Space Settelement" animation topic?
>>
>>I've decided that I'm not going to do any animations until there is a
>>definite word on whether the IRTC is coming back or not. At that time
>>I'll decide when and where I'll be resuming animations.
>
>
> The thing is John, you'll be an old man by the time the folks at the
> IRTC decide to say ANYTHING at all. Personally, even if the IRTC came back
> with a new website, new comps, whatever, I wouldn't entertain them. I think
> it's really bad form to have done what they've done without doing anything,
> saying anything, to ANYONE that's involved. It was just really bad
> etiquette, (or, netiquette, if you like).
>
> I would start on "The Black Robe" if I were you John - I was always
> intrigued by what you might come up with for this round.
I would, except that the "topic" would be more of an "alleged topic" for
anything I did.
At the moment, when I'm not playing Diablo II, I'm slowly whipping up
some macros to do Catmull-Clark surface subdivision, so that the next
version of my modeler will be useful.
Regards,
John
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