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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: Frame size creates difficulty for viewers
Date: 27 Jul 2000 08:36:22
Message: <39802B98.BE70BD92@my-dejanews.com>
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
Ugh.
<p>I hath been driven deep into the bowels of M$ software.  With the
new media player, not only am I able to see these AVI's and irregular sized
MPEG-1's & 2's, but also I get to see the M$ logo for 2 seconds before
any animation plays, and mysteriously, one of my open web browsers seems
to have decided to visit the MSN.com homepage.
<br> 
<h1>
<b><i><u><font face="Centaur"><font color="#FF0000"><font
size=+0>Halleluiah!   
Embrace modernity and the M$ line of office
products!</font></font></font></u></i></b></h1>
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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Frame size creates difficulty for viewers
Date: 9 Aug 2000 13:20:22
Message: <399192d6@news.povray.org>
In article <39802B98.BE70BD92@my-dejanews.com> , "Greg M. Johnson" 
<gre### [at] my-dejanewscom> wrote:

> I hath been driven deep into the bowels of M$ software.  With the new media
> player, not only am I able to see these AVI's and irregular sized MPEG-1's
> & 2's, but also I get to see the M$ logo for 2 seconds before any animation
> plays, and mysteriously, one of my open web browsers seems to have decided
> to visit the MSN.com homepage.
>
> Halleluiah!   Embrace modernity and the M$ line of office products!

Solution to your problems:  Uninstall it and download QuickTime.  It doesn't
have any problems with MPEG-1 and you don't have to visit a M$ website each
time (and no Apple website either).


      Thorsten


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Frame size creates difficulty for viewers
Date: 9 Aug 2000 14:38:19
Message: <3991A345.C492F7A8@pacbell.net>
Thorsten Froehlich wrote:

> Solution to your problems:  Uninstall it and download QuickTime.  It doesn't
> have any problems with MPEG-1 and you don't have to visit a M$ website each
> time (and no Apple website either).
> 
>       Thorsten

Ever since installing QT on my system I have been unable to load
mpegs form povray.binaries.animations because it crashes Netscape.

I hate QT !!!

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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Frame size creates difficulty for viewers
Date: 14 Aug 2000 05:49:00
Message: <3997c08c@news.povray.org>
In article <3991A345.C492F7A8@pacbell.net> , Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet>  
wrote:

> Ever since installing QT on my system I have been unable to load
> mpegs form povray.binaries.animations because it crashes Netscape.
>
> I hate QT !!!

Its not a problem of QuickTime, it is one of Netscape.  Especially the
recent versions of Netscape (since 4.x) seem to associate completely wrong
Plug-Ins with file types.  On Macs it is already annoying, but on Windows it
seems to be even worse.  This causes bizarre problems when using QuickTime.
Manually (re-)associating the QT Plug-In with the file types helps most of
the time, even resolving crashes!

Did you try using a "real" newsreader that uses the same file-application
mappings Windows uses?  It should then automatically open the QuickTime
Movie Player - except of course you install any M$ product after QuickTime.
In that case you will have to reinstall QuickTime to get it working again.
This is one of the Windows "features" Apple demonstrated in the anti-thrust
case...


     Thorsten


PS: Upgrading to a Macintosh will also resolve your problems with Windows,
of course ;-)


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Frame size creates difficulty for viewers
Date: 15 Aug 2000 21:00:13
Message: <3999E7EA.D99095D@erols.com>
Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> 
> In article <3991A345.C492F7A8@pacbell.net> , Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet>
> wrote:
> 
> > Ever since installing QT on my system I have been unable to load
> > mpegs from povray.binaries.animations because it crashes Netscape.
> >
> > I hate QT !!!
> 
> Its not a problem of QuickTime, it is one of Netscape.

I've had QT crashes when opening a file directly through Windows
Explorer.

There is one option for QT that I detest.  Apparently a QT file can
contain nothing more than a bit of code that itself downloads the
actual anim.  This adds no value to the process; all it does is
give the software one more opportunity to break.

This bit of loading code also seems to prevent caching of the
animation.  This is VERY annoying.  Some of us like to download
a thing once, instead of every single time we want to view it.

Regards,
John
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From: Jerry
Subject: Re: Frame size creates difficulty for viewers
Date: 16 Aug 2000 11:07:12
Message: <jerry-8757AE.08071216082000@news.povray.org>
In article <399### [at] erolscom>, John VanSickle 
<van### [at] erolscom> wrote:
>There is one option for QT that I detest.  Apparently a QT file can
>contain nothing more than a bit of code that itself downloads the
>actual anim.  This adds no value to the process; all it does is
>give the software one more opportunity to break.

This is a very useful feature for dynamic information (such as live 
feeds). QT can't really be blamed because some other idiots (LOTR comes 
to mind) don't realize that their static information is not a live feed. 
(I don't know how many times I've re-downloaded the LOTR trailer wasting 
their bandwidth.)

If Apple had not added that feature, they would not be able to compete 
with Real (which as far as I can tell *only* works like that, and that's 
why news organizations like it).

Jerry


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Frame size creates difficulty for viewers
Date: 16 Aug 2000 21:44:35
Message: <399B43FD.E34BD9B4@erols.com>
Jerry wrote:
> 
> In article <399### [at] erolscom>, John VanSickle
> <van### [at] erolscom> wrote:
> >There is one option for QT that I detest.  Apparently a QT file can
> >contain nothing more than a bit of code that itself downloads the
> >actual anim.  This adds no value to the process; all it does is
> >give the software one more opportunity to break.
> 
> This is a very useful feature for dynamic information (such as live
> feeds). QT can't really be blamed because some other idiots (LOTR
> comes to mind) don't realize that their static information is not a
> live feed. (I don't know how many times I've re-downloaded the LOTR
> trailer wasting their bandwidth.)

The LotR trailer is what got me onto this rant.

> If Apple had not added that feature, they would not be able to compete
> with Real (which as far as I can tell *only* works like that, and
> that's why news organizations like it).

I can see the point here.  I was more angry at the LotR people for
using the feature than I was at QT for having the feature.

Regards,
John
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ICQ: 46085459


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