lavender <lav### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
: One: Why are you programming POVRAY?
: My hope answer: To produce the best and most capable program to your abilities.

  Is this some kind of provocation?

: You claim how difficult it is to do what I have sudjested but I have done just 
: what I have asked with clumsey and slow code.

  Well, here you are.
  You are free to make it with high-quality and fast code and make a patch
for povray with it. Contributions are very welcome.
  Btw, if this was about multithreaded povray, I would like to see it working
with radiosity.

: Secondly men where able to send a person to the moon useing a slide rule

  Do you know how much money they received for one hour of work?

: One of these post stated that there is no other program that uses network 
: rendering over multiple platforms.

  Don't believe everything you read.
  I use this kind of programs myself from time to time.

: They just need to be pushed like an athalete to perform at 
: the level we all know they can reach.

  Sorry, but this statement is plain ridiculous.

-- 
main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/

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Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
: I personally
: feel that picking on spelling a grammar mistakes is petty and
: uncalled for.

  On the other hand people will never learn to write correctly if no-one
tells them what they are doing wrong.
  I personally would like people telling me if I write something wrong, but
I have gave up long time ago because people are "too" polite for that. I have
no other alternative but learn english just by reading others texts.

-- 
main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/

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Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote
> Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
> : I personally
> : feel that picking on spelling a grammar mistakes is petty and
> : uncalled for.
>
>   On the other hand people will never learn to write correctly if no-one
> tells them what they are doing wrong.

Writers/spellers  need to be pushed like an athelete to perform at
the level we all know they can reach.

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david sharp wrote:

> Writers/spellers  need to be pushed like an athelete to perform at
> the level we all know they can reach.

That's a fakt !

-- 
Ken Tyler - 1400+ POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/

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Warp wrote in message <3960ffab@news.povray.org>...
>I have gave up long time ago because people are "too" polite for that. I
have
>no other alternative but learn english just by reading others texts.


That should be others', not others.

Mark

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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message news:3960ffab@news.povray.org...
| Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
| : I personally
| : feel that picking on spelling a grammar mistakes is petty and
| : uncalled for.
|
|   On the other hand people will never learn to write correctly if no-one
| tells them what they are doing wrong.
|   I personally would like people telling me if I write something wrong, but
| I have gave up long time ago because people are "too" polite for that. I
have
| no other alternative but learn english just by reading others texts.

The English language, and I could probably guess right that all others too,
are somewhat of a science.  Although, no one ever seems to consider it so.
Learning the correct way to both speak and write is something that can keep
being refined but language, at least English I know, has been metamorphosing
for centuries.  And it keeps on changing grammatically most of all.  To keep a
good understanding of it you'd have to follow the school of thought on it as
opposed to any one persons speech.  Therein lies the problem, continual
diversification of the learned versus the known language.  By "known" I'm
talking about how it's used in everyday life, as opposed to the "learned"
being a dissected and resurrected lingual science.
I often can't imagine someone trying to learn English and ever hoping to make
complete sense out of everything they hear, read, write or say.  If anything I
think much of it comes from ones own understanding of a language of their own
and inferring as well as possible what something means.  Perfected language is
only a shell for the usual communications everyone make.
Really though, you could write and speak any number of ways in a single
language so it has to be something people convey beyond words.  That's the
trouble though, it's akin to mind-reading too in that one thing can always
mean another.  There's no sure thing about it.
I'll leave you with those thoughts in mind  ;-)  but please do go ahead and
re-read what I just said here and it's probably not going to be what I said
precisely the first time I can almost guarantee.  However the general message
gets through.

[this reply brought to you by the redundant use of other people previous
words]

Bob

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On 3 Jul 2000 17:03:39 -0400, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:

>  On the other hand people will never learn to write correctly if no-one
>tells them what they are doing wrong.
>  I personally would like people telling me if I write something wrong, but
>I have gave up long time ago because people are "too" polite for that. I have
>no other alternative but learn english just by reading others texts.

Hark and behold! At last there is a man of virtue to stand against the
native speaker lord and tell him of our woes. Alas! as for our brethen
tis already too late, for the shadows of our past have left none
unscarred. Blessed is he who has dwelled among folk of such bravery as
to stand tall and speak up for their hearts, though pain and dismay
their sayings may hold for others, for he has learnt his lesson,
though bitter it may have been, and has become keen in the Western
tongue.

etc.

I am having too much Talkien lately, it seems...


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] usanet
TAG      e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg

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> : I personally
> : feel that picking on spelling a grammar mistakes is petty and
> : uncalled for.
>
>   On the other hand people will never learn to write correctly if no-one
> tells them what they are doing wrong.
>   I personally would like people telling me if I write something wrong,
but
> I have gave up long time ago because people are "too" polite for that. I
have
> no other alternative but learn english just by reading others texts.

Hey with my English, I need all the help I can get! (and I'm a native one
language man myself!).

What sickens me is the British English education system is so dire, even
most of its own citizens cannot grasp the language correctly.

I was on the dyslexic side at school, and for English ended up being dumped
to the bottom class, instead of receiving the extra help I needed. I had an
expected English GCSE grade of 'G', while for other subjects such as math
and science I was in the top sets, looking toward straight A's.

And no one thought this was odd.

Because of my poor English, it was strongly suggested to me that I drop my
main GCSE's at option time, and take supplementary education instead, in
other words, I would have finished school with no qualifications to speak
of, and have some basic life skills instead. (ready for a career on the
social, and painting park benches!!)

You can guess where I told them to stick that idea!

As I happened I retook my English at college and managed to get a D, but
that was only because my main course (IT) took priority and I let the
English course work suffer.

Rick

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In article <3961c060@news.povray.org>, "Rick" <ric### [at] kitty5com> wrote:

> Hey with my English, I need all the help I can get! (and I'm a native one
> language man myself!).
> 
> What sickens me is the British English education system is so dire, even
> most of its own citizens cannot grasp the language correctly.
> 
> I was on the dyslexic side at school, and for English ended up being 
> dumped to the bottom class, instead of receiving the extra help I 
> needed. I had an expected English GCSE grade of 'G', while for other 
> subjects such as math and science I was in the top sets, looking 
> toward straight A's.

I know how you feel...I barely passed Grammar II this year, and may have 
to take the second semester again next year. My other subjects, while 
not straight A's, were much better. I'm not dyslexic, I just can't 
identify sentence parts. It's like I categorize words differently from 
the person who wrote the grammar book(which seems to be written by 
someone obsessed with finding the most complex way in which to explain 
things). Many of the constructions of English seem clumsy and unnatural 
to me, though because it is the only language I know, I can't compare 
with others.
Not surprisingly, when I took the SAT(an ability test), language came 
out behind everything else.

And if you think the British system is bad, look at some of the stuff 
some Americans write. And most of them don't even care that people can 
barely understand them.(If I make a spelling mistake, please point it 
out. If I make a grammar mistake, also point it out, but I will probably 
forget it 5 minutes after I read it.)

-- 
Christopher James Huff - Personal e-mail: chr### [at] maccom
TAG(Technical Assistance Group) e-mail: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg
Personal Web page: http://homepage.mac.com/chrishuff/
TAG Web page: http://tag.povray.org/

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> > P.S. Spelling and grammar do count.
> 
> In defense of Lavender and all non-english speaking people who visit
> this news server -
[Snip]
Long thread is following this post, but where is mentioned POVRay and
Windows?

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