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From: Glen Berry
Subject: What software do *YOU* open and edit 48bpp images with?
Date: 11 Sep 2001 13:01:46
Message: <UUGeO2+lfRigGcT=HKxECjb0RrNf@4ax.com>
Ok, after getting a good dose of negative comments about trying to
make POV-Ray and Photoshop more compatible, in regards to 48bpp
images, I have one burning question in my mind:

What image editor (available for Windows) will open and properly edit
a POV-Ray 48bpp image? 

By "properly", I mean it will open the image in 48bpp mode, not 24bpp.
It will be able to perform "curves" and "levels" operations on the
48bpp  image. It offers a 24bpp preview on my monitor. It can convert
the 48bpp image to a standard 24bpp file, after I am done tweaking the
curves or levels.

So what software do I use? What software do *you* use?

I'd really like to know.

Thanks,
Glen


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: What software do *YOU* open and edit 48bpp images with?
Date: 11 Sep 2001 13:21:39
Message: <Xns9119C4F32AEC7seed7@povray.org>
in news:UUGeO2+lfRigGcT=HKxECjb0RrNf@4ax.com Glen Berry wrote:

> So what software do I use? What software do *you* use?
>  

 Imagemagick, don't know what 'curves stuff' it can do as I mainly use 
it for simle things from commandline. Just tried adjust of brightness 
and it works, with 48bit PNG input from POV-Ray, the output is also 
48bit.
 For viewing with Imagemagick you'll need an x-server. I use cygwin/x-
free, but there seem to be pure windows solutions.

Ingo

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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: What software do *YOU* open and edit 48bpp images with?
Date: 11 Sep 2001 13:40:28
Message: <slrn9psj4f.mc4.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:00:12 -0400, Glen Berry wrote:
>What image editor (available for Windows) will open and properly edit
>a POV-Ray 48bpp image? 

Photoshop will, if you use ppm format and tell Photoshop that it's
really a raw image.  See Kari's post about this somewhere around here.

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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: What software do *YOU* open and edit 48bpp images with?
Date: 11 Sep 2001 17:16:55
Message: <mnyeO=beu2uM61syz5wuRJkYLMC9@4ax.com>
On 11 Sep 2001 13:40:28 -0400, ron### [at] povrayorg (Ron Parker)
wrote:

>Photoshop will, if you use ppm format and tell Photoshop that it's
>really a raw image.  See Kari's post about this somewhere around here.

Unfortunately, I only have Photoshop 5.0 LE, and not the full package.
I tried Kari's suggestion, but my "LE" version of Photoshop won't open
RAW format images, at least as far as I can tell.

It will open 16 bit per channel images in the PSD and TIFF formats,
but I see no support for any "RAW" formats at all, 16 bit or
otherwise. I also checked for "PPM" and couldn't find any support for
that either.   :(

Later,
Glen


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: What software do *YOU* open and edit 48bpp images with?
Date: 11 Sep 2001 17:21:25
Message: <slrn9pt02o.mo1.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:15:25 -0400, Glen Berry wrote:
>Unfortunately, I only have Photoshop 5.0 LE, and not the full package.
>I tried Kari's suggestion, but my "LE" version of Photoshop won't open
>RAW format images, at least as far as I can tell.
>
>It will open 16 bit per channel images in the PSD and TIFF formats,
>but I see no support for any "RAW" formats at all, 16 bit or
>otherwise. I also checked for "PPM" and couldn't find any support for
>that either.   :(

In that case, perhaps you can use a recent build of the PBM utilities to
convert POV-generated 16-bit images in PNG or PPM format to TIFF format.  
You can find Windows binaries at the URL below, but I note that they are
for version 9.14 rather than the current 9.18 and I'm not sure if they'll
have support for what POV calls a 16-bpp PPM.  Can't hurt to try, though.
  
  http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/netpbm.htm



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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: What software do *YOU* open and edit 48bpp images with?
Date: 11 Sep 2001 17:30:28
Message: <jYCeO+qp8u2fGgBjrjRk3UZHE4Cu@4ax.com>
On 11 Sep 2001 17:21:25 -0400, ron### [at] povrayorg (Ron Parker)
wrote:

>In that case, perhaps you can use a recent build of the PBM utilities to
>convert POV-generated 16-bit images in PNG or PPM format to TIFF format.  

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it a try a bit later. 

I don't know about anyone else, but here in West Virginia, I'm having
trouble reaching a lot of internet sites today. I suspect it has
something to do with the terroist activity earlier today, in NYC and
Washington, DC. Suprisingly, I can access the New York Times website
without too much difficulty, but this news group for example, is only
accessable about one in every thirty attempts. Even when I can get
access to this server, it doesn't last for very long. If only the
internet slowdown was the worst problem anyone faced today...

Later,
Glen


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From: Mr  Art
Subject: Re: What software do *YOU* open and edit 48bpp images with?
Date: 11 Sep 2001 21:27:24
Message: <3B9EF244.B6B8B7F0@chesapeake.net>
I thought that PaintShop Pro might. But I cant even verify that
the files are other than 24 bpp. No mater how I set the option
for pixel depth (+fn5 to +fn16) PSP always shows a 24 bpp/16 million 
color report when I ask for image information.
Is it something with POVRay or PSP?

Glen Berry wrote:
> 
> Ok, after getting a good dose of negative comments about trying to
> make POV-Ray and Photoshop more compatible, in regards to 48bpp
> images, I have one burning question in my mind:
> 
> What image editor (available for Windows) will open and properly edit
> a POV-Ray 48bpp image?
> 
> By "properly", I mean it will open the image in 48bpp mode, not 24bpp.
> It will be able to perform "curves" and "levels" operations on the
> 48bpp  image. It offers a 24bpp preview on my monitor. It can convert
> the 48bpp image to a standard 24bpp file, after I am done tweaking the
> curves or levels.
> 
> So what software do I use? What software do *you* use?
> 
> I'd really like to know.
> 
> Thanks,
> Glen


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: What software do *YOU* open and edit 48bpp images with?
Date: 12 Sep 2001 11:20:58
Message: <3b9f7d5a$1@news.povray.org>
"Glen Berry" <7no### [at] ezwvcom> wrote in message
news:UUGeO2+lfRigGcT=HKxECjb0RrNf@4ax.com...

Does Gimp work with 48bpp? It seems to open 48bpp png's okay.


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From: Jon A  Cruz
Subject: Re: What software do *YOU* open and edit 48bpp images with?
Date: 12 Sep 2001 11:50:54
Message: <3B9F8438.3E44BD90@geocities.com>
Tom Melly wrote:

> "Glen Berry" <7no### [at] ezwvcom> wrote in message
> news:UUGeO2+lfRigGcT=HKxECjb0RrNf@4ax.com...
>
> Does Gimp work with 48bpp? It seems to open 48bpp png's okay.

IIRC, the Gimp will open 48bpp, but will only actually use and work in
24bpp +alpha.

For 16bpp, you'd have to look to the 'hollywood' branch

http://film.gimp.org/

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: What software do *YOU* open and edit 48bpp images with?
Date: 13 Sep 2001 04:55:46
Message: <3ba07491@news.povray.org>
Mr. Art <mra### [at] chesapeakenet> wrote:
: Is it something with POVRay or PSP?

  Does the image file size grow when you use more bits per pixel? If so,
that's a quite clear sign that povray is working ok.

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